On 30/01/2008, at 12:54 PM, Charles wrote:

Thanks for the conversation, folks!

I was hoping that <video> would make Objecty <http://wiltgen.net/ objecty/> redundant by making it easy for authors to embed video in a very simple, normalized fashion across formats, browsers and OSs. Now I understand that <video> will be considered successful without having fixed video embeddeding in general, which is fine.
What part of video does it not fix? It defines a standard API for all implementers, with standard html-native markup.

Afaict you just want to be able to replace your use of <object> with <video> which is entirely pointless, the purpose of the video tag is to provide a standardised native html element, not another plugin mechanism to replace <object> -- by definition a plugin is both non- native and non-standard so has no relevance here.

Once the spec is complete you'll be able to use standard html to say here is a video, then use JS to bind custom controls (if you so desire), and everything will be wholesome and good. If you want to use a plugin use <object> that's what <object> is for.

--Oliver


Microsoft provides a QuickTime component for Windows Media; would
that not be sufficient?

Unfortunately not. There's the installed base problem we've talked about a lot in the thread, plus Flip4Mac WM doesn't support all Windows Media features. Really, it was always just a stop-gap until Silverlight.

-- Charles



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