Re: [whatwg] Handling inside <body></span></a></span> </h1> <p class="darkgray font13"> <span class="sender pipe"><a href="/search?l=whatwg@lists.whatwg.org&q=from:%22Simon+Pieters%22" rel="nofollow"><span itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"><span itemprop="name">Simon Pieters</span></span></a></span> <span class="date"><a href="/search?l=whatwg@lists.whatwg.org&q=date:20081110" rel="nofollow">Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:20:45 -0800</a></span> </p> </div> <div itemprop="articleBody" class="msgBody"> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <tt>On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:51:34 +0100, Tommy Thorsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> </tt><tt>wrote: </tt><pre style="margin: 0em;"> </pre><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>I noticed that, according to the html5 algorithm, when the parser sees a </tt><tt><title> start tag when in the "in body" insertion mode, it's not </tt><tt>supposed to relocate it to the head element. Opera matches this </tt><tt>behaviour, but Firefox moves any title tag it finds into the head </tt><tt>element. </tt></blockquote><pre style="margin: 0em;"></pre><pre> </pre><tt>HTML5 used to match Firefox, but changed since, IIRC, Mozilla said they </tt><tt>considered their behavior a bug and would change to match Opera. </tt><pre style="margin: 0em;"> </pre><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>The description of the title element in the spec ("4.2.2 The title </tt><tt>element") says: </tt><pre style="margin: 0em;"> Contexts in which this element may be used: In a head element containing no other title elements. </pre><tt>I don't care very strongly about whether or not title elements are </tt><tt>allowed anywhere, but I do think the output of the parsing algorithm </tt><tt>should be valid html according to the rest of the spec. </tt></blockquote><pre style="margin: 0em;"> Why? </pre><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>I think everything I've said about the <title> element also applies to </tt><tt>the <base> element. </tt><pre style="margin: 0em;"> </pre><tt>FWIW: In our implementation, I've changed the handling of "base" and </tt><tt>"title" in "in body" to: </tt><pre style="margin: 0em;"> </pre><tt> Process the token using the rules for the "after head" insertion </tt><tt>mode. </tt><pre style="margin: 0em;"> instead of processing them with the rules for "in head". </pre></blockquote><pre style="margin: 0em;"> </pre><tt>This doesn't result in "valid HTML" when there are multiple <title>s or </tt><tt><base>s or when the <base> doesn't have "either an href attribute, a </tt><tt>target attribute, or both" or where the <base> element's href doesn't </tt><tt>"contain a valid URL" or when the element doesn't "come before any other </tt><tt>elements in the tree that have attributes defined as taking URLs", and so </tt><tt>forth. </tt><pre style="margin: 0em;"> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/semantics.html#the-base-element">http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/semantics.html#the-base-element</a> </pre><tt>Not to mention cases where the notion of "valid HTML" depends on external </tt><tt>resources or the author's intent (e.g. <img>). </tt><pre style="margin: 0em;"> -- Simon Pieters Opera Software </pre> </div> <div class="msgButtons margintopdouble"> <ul class="overflow"> <li class="msgButtonItems"><a class="button buttonleft " accesskey="p" href="msg12170.html">Previous message</a></li> <li class="msgButtonItems textaligncenter"><a class="button" accesskey="c" href="thrd2.html#12166">View by thread</a></li> <li class="msgButtonItems textaligncenter"><a class="button" accesskey="i" href="mail3.html#12166">View by date</a></li> <li class="msgButtonItems textalignright"><a class="button buttonright " accesskey="n" href="msg12167.html">Next message</a></li> </ul> </div> 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