Re: [whatwg] Handling inside <body></span></a></span> </h1> <p class="darkgray font13"> <span class="sender pipe"><a href="/search?l=whatwg@lists.whatwg.org&q=from:%22Simon+Pieters%22" rel="nofollow"><span itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"><span itemprop="name">Simon Pieters</span></span></a></span> <span class="date"><a href="/search?l=whatwg@lists.whatwg.org&q=date:20081110" rel="nofollow">Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:43:29 -0800</a></span> </p> </div> <div itemprop="articleBody" class="msgBody"> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <tt>On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:31:48 +0100, Tommy Thorsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> </tt><tt>wrote: </tt><pre style="margin: 0em;"> </pre><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;"> Simon Pieters wrote: </pre><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>The description of the title element in the spec ("4.2.2 The title </tt><tt>element") says: </tt><pre style="margin: 0em;"></pre><pre> Contexts in which this element may be used: In a head element containing no other title elements. </pre><tt>I don't care very strongly about whether or not title elements are </tt><tt>allowed anywhere, but I do think the output of the parsing algorithm </tt><tt>should be valid html according to the rest of the spec. </tt></blockquote><pre style="margin: 0em;"> Why? </pre></blockquote><pre style="margin: 0em;"> Hmm. Good question. If not, then why do we do foster parenting at all? </pre></blockquote><pre style="margin: 0em;"> </pre><tt>For Web compat. It's what browsers do. (IE and Opera don't foster parent </tt><tt>but have magic <caption>-like elements around non-table content which </tt><tt>makes it render pretty much the same.) </tt><pre style="margin: 0em;"> </pre><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt> From an implementors point of view, it's good to have clearly defined </tt><tt>boundaries between modules. An implementation would typically have one </tt><tt>module that tokenises and parses html and one module that renders the </tt><tt>resulting dom to the screen. If all the unexpected input is dealt with </tt><tt>in the parsing module, then you can make some assumptions in the </tt><tt>rendering module which can greatly simplify the implementation. Having </tt><tt>to deal with an arbitrary amount of illegal input in either module is, </tt><tt>IMHO, not the ideal design. </tt></blockquote><pre style="margin: 0em;"> </pre><tt>When you support XHTML you'll have to deal with arbitrary trees anyway. </tt><tt>And, actually, just with DOM and scripting you can end up with arbitrary </tt><tt>trees. </tt><pre style="margin: 0em;"> -- Simon Pieters Opera Software </pre> </div> <div class="msgButtons margintopdouble"> <ul class="overflow"> <li class="msgButtonItems"><a class="button buttonleft " accesskey="p" href="msg12167.html">Previous message</a></li> <li class="msgButtonItems textaligncenter"><a class="button" accesskey="c" href="thrd11.html#12168">View by thread</a></li> <li class="msgButtonItems textaligncenter"><a class="button" accesskey="i" href="mail13.html#12168">View by date</a></li> <li class="msgButtonItems textalignright"><a class="button buttonright " accesskey="n" href="msg12173.html">Next message</a></li> </ul> </div> <a name="tslice"></a> <div class="tSliceList margintopdouble"> <ul class="icons monospace"> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg12170.html">[whatwg] Handling <title> inside <body></a></span> <span class="sender italic">Tommy Thorsen</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg12166.html">Re: [whatwg] Handling <title> inside <body></a></span> <span class="sender italic">Simon Pieters</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg12167.html">Re: [whatwg] Handling <title> inside <body...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Tommy Thorsen</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email tSliceCur"><span class="subject">Re: [whatwg] Handling <title> inside <...</span> <span class="sender italic">Simon Pieters</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg12173.html">Re: [whatwg] Handling <title> inside ...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Ian Hickson</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg12189.html">Re: [whatwg] Handling <title> in...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Tommy Thorsen</span></li> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg12193.html">Re: [whatwg] Handling <title> in...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Tommy Thorsen</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg12762.html">Re: [whatwg] Handling <title>...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Ian Hickson</span></li> </ul></li> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg12208.html">Re: [whatwg] Handling <title> in...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Garrett Smith</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg12212.html">Re: [whatwg] Handling <title>...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Ian Hickson</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg12220.html">Re: [whatwg] Handling <titl...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Garrett Smith</span></li> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg12226.html">Re: [whatwg] Handling <titl...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Ian Hickson</span></li> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </div> <div class="overflow msgActions margintopdouble"> <div class="msgReply" > <h2> Reply via email to </h2> <form method="POST" action="/mailto.php"> <input type="hidden" name="subject" value="Re: [whatwg] Handling <title> inside <body>"> <input type="hidden" name="msgid" value="op.ukeq6m18idj3kv@zcorpandell.linkoping.osa"> <input type="hidden" name="relpath" value="whatwg@lists.whatwg.org/msg12168.html"> <input type="submit" value=" Simon Pieters "> </form> </div> </div> </div> <div class="aside" role="complementary"> <div class="logo"> <a href="/"><img src="/logo.png" width=247 height=88 alt="The Mail Archive"></a> </div> <form class="overflow" action="/search" method="get"> <input type="hidden" name="l" value="whatwg@lists.whatwg.org"> <label class="hidden" for="q">Search the site</label> <input class="submittext" type="text" id="q" name="q" placeholder="Search whatwg"> <input class="submitbutton" name="submit" type="image" src="/submit.png" alt="Submit"> </form> <div class="nav margintop" id="nav" role="navigation"> <ul class="icons font16"> <li class="icons-home"><a href="/">The Mail Archive home</a></li> <li class="icons-list"><a href="/whatwg@lists.whatwg.org/">whatwg - 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