The small element represents small print [...]

The b element represents a span of text to be stylistically offset from
the normal prose without conveying any extra importance [...]

Both definitions seems rather presentational (contrasting, for example,
the new semantic definition for the <i> element) and could also be
realized by use of <span> elements.

Why use <span class="smallprint">Copyright (c) 2008 ?</span> instead
of just <small>Copyright (c) 2008 ?</small>?  The latter possibility
is way more semantic.

And why use <span class="brand">Siemens</span> instead of just <b>Siemens</b>?

To me, the small and b elements ? especially the former ? make perfect sense.

-david

I agree with the original poster on this.

1) Just because it makes sense to a human (it doesn't to me), does not mean it makes sense to a machine. 2) When using <small> on different text-nodes throughout the document, one would expect all these text-nodes to be semantically the same. But they are not (unless all of them are copyright notices). 3) <small> is a styling element, it has zero semantic meaning, so it does not belong inside HTML. 4) <b>Siemens</b> also does not tell me anything about the semantics. Is it used as a name, a brand a foreign word ? etc. I cannot get that information from looking at the <b> element.

Bert

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