As an alternative,common libraries could get shipped as browser plugins, allowing developers to leverage "local" URIs such as "chrome://" in XUL/mozilla/firefox apps. This would only effectively work if:

- all vendors define a same local URI prefix. I do like "chrome://". Mozilla dudes were always lightyears ahead in all forms of cross- platform app development with XUL. - all vendors extend their existing plugin architecture to accomodate this URI and referencing from network-delivered pages. - some form of discovery exists, with ability to provide network transport alternative: "use chrome URI if exists, use http URI if not"

Library vendors would then ship their releases as browser plugins, using existing discovery mechanisms, as well as software update mechanisms.

-chris


On Jun 15, 2009, at 11:55, Oliver Hunt <[email protected]> wrote:

Pros:
- Pre-Compiled: By bundling known JS Libraries with the browser, the browser could store a more efficient representation of the file. For instance pre-compiled into Bytecode or something else browser specific.
I think something needs to be clarified wrt to compile times and the like. In the WebKit project we do a large amount of performance analysis and except in the most trivial of cases compile time just doesn't show up as being remotely significant in any profiles. Additionally the way JS works, certain forms of static analysis result in behaviour that cannot reasonably be cached. Finally the optimised object lookup and function call behaviour employed by JavaScriptCore, V8 and (i *think*) TraceMonkey is not amenable to caching, even within a single browser session, so for modern engines i do not believe caching bytecode or native is really reasonable -- i suspect the logic required to make this safe would not be significantly cheaper than just compiling anyway.

- Less HTTP Requests / Cache Checks: If a library is in the repository no request is needed. Cache checks don't need to be performed. Also, for the 100 sites you visit that all send you the equivalent jquery.js you now would send 0 requests. I think this would be enticing to mobile browsers which would benefit from this Space vs. Time tradeoff.
I believe http can specify how long you should wait before validating the cached copy of a resource so i'm not know if this is a real win, but i'm not a networking person so am not entirely sure of this :D

- Standardizing Identifier For Libraries: Providing a common identifier for libraries would be open for discussion. The best idea I've had would be to provide the SHA1 Hash of the Desired Release of a Javascript Library. This would ensure a common identifier for the same source file across browsers that support the feature. This would be useful for developers as well. A debug tool can indicate to a developer that the script they are using is available in the Browser Repository with a certain identifier.
This isn't a pro -- it's additional work for the standards body

Cons:

- May Not Grow Fast Enough: If JS Libraries change too quickly the repository won't get used enough. - May Not Scale: Are there too many JS Libraries, versions, etc making this unrealistic? Would storage become too large?
- Adds significant spec complexity
- Adds developer complexity, imagine a developer modifies their servers copy of a given script but forgets to update the references to the script, now they get inconsistent behaviour between browsers that support this feature and browsers that don't.

--Oliver

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