On Mar 13, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote:

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Oliver Hunt <[email protected]> wrote:

On Mar 13, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote:
There is a use case, which I suspect is quite common, for using
<canvas> to manipulate files on the users file system. For example
when creating a photo uploader which does client side scaling before
uploading the images, or for creating a web based GIMP like
application.

In this case we'll start out with a File object that needs to be read
in to a <canvas>. One solution could be to read the File into memory
in a ByteArray (or similar) and add a synchronous
canvas2dcontext.fromByteArray function. This has the advantage of
being more generic, but the downside of forcing both the encoded and
decoded image to be read into memory.

Honestly i think nice and consistent way for this work work would simply be to support
someImage.src = someFileObject

Which would be asynchronous, and support all the image formats the browser already supports.

That is already possible:

someImage.src = someFileObject.urn;

However this brings us back to the very long list of steps I listed
earlier in this thread.

I think it is cleaner to have an asynchronous image load operation (as shown above) and then a synchronous image paint operation, rather than to introduce a asynchronous paint operation directly on the 2D context.

I don't think there is any sane way to add an asynchronous draw command to the 2D context, given that all the existing drawing commands are synchronous. What happens if you do an async paint of a File, followed by synchronous painting operations? It seems like the only options are to force synchronous I/O, give unpredictable results, or break the invariants on current drawing operations (i.e. the guarantee that they are complete by the time you return to the event loop and thus canvas updates are atomic)

Separating the async I/O from drawing allows the 2D context to remain 100% synchronous and thus to have sane semantics.

I think the number of steps is not the primary concern here. The issue driving the proposal for offscreen canvas is responsiveness - i.e. not blocking the main thread for a long time. It seems to me that number of steps is not the main issue for responsiveness, but rather whether there are operations that take a lot of CPU and are done synchronously, and therefore, whether it is worthwhile to farm some of that work out to a Worker. I/O is not really a major consideration because we already have ways to do asynchronous I/O.

Regards,
Maciej

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