I'm perplexed at the resistance. We've tried telling our clients not to use 
IE6, "IE8 is much faster". But inevitably, we have to make it work.

Mike Wilcox
http://clubajax.org
[email protected]



On Aug 11, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote:

> On 8/11/10 9:17 PM, Garrett Smith wrote:
>> On 8/11/10, Boris Zbarsky<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>> On 8/11/10 11:48 AM, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
>>>> javascript:var start = new Date(); function f(n) { for (var k =
>>>> n.firstChild; k; k = n.nextSibling) f(k); } f(document); alert(new
>>>> Date() - start)
>>> 
>>> Er, that had a typo.  The correct script is:
>>> 
>>> javascript:var start = new Date(); function f(n) { for (var k =
>>> n.firstChild; k; k = k.nextSibling) f(k); } f(document); alert(new
>>> Date() - start);
>>> 
>> 
>> My result is 1012
> 
> In what browser?  Firefox 3.6?  (And presumably on reasonably slow hardware, 
> if so.)
> 
> If so, really do try 4.0 beta.  It's a good bit faster.
> 
>> It's also highly contrived example. When you start doing any DOM
>> manipluation, particularly appending or removing nodes, you're going
>> to notice a lot larger times.
> 
> Well, sure, but you also won't be walking the entire DOM in JS like this.  
> The HTML5 spec scripts sure don't, last I checked.
> 
>>> Now the numbers are slightly larger; on the order of 230ms to 350ms.
>>> Barely above human lag-perception.  This is on a several-years-old
>>> laptop as hardware.
>> 
>> How do figure that's barely above human lag perception?
> 
> The commonly accepted figure for when things start to feel laggy in UI terms 
> is 200ms.  If someone clicks and nothing happens for more than 200ms then 
> they perceive the response as slow.  Otherwise they generally perceive it as 
> "pretty much instant".
> 
> -Boris

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