Gili,
I see where you are coming from. We /also/ want to ship RC3 as soon as possible. However, we have found several core problems which should be fixed before we go to 1.0. These issues are mainly internal to Wicket, but have great influence on usage patterns or on promised features (for instance clustering support). If the currently found issues aren't solved, I assure you that the whole community of the serverside, Javalobby, and java.net will turn their backs on Wicket and that is something nobody wants (perhaps Howard Lewis Ship ;-).
We are fully aware that delaying 1.0 is not helping us, but shipping the current state would make things harder than having to wait for a few more weeks. Most estimates go from 2-3 weeks before RC3 comes out. However, this is dependend on vacations, bugs, births and just having enough time to work on Wicket.
As to the roles on the wicket team, if you have read the mailing list for a while, you can easily see who is doing what. I mainly focus on delivering the goods, and fix the occasional bug. Jonathan, Eelco, Juergen and Johan are the actual core developers, where Eelco and Juergen also contribute heavily on the Wicket-stuff projects, and other open source projects. Chris is our main clustering guy and is also our 'conscience' when our commits go sour.
You know, this is an open source project. As far as I know, we provide quick responses to questions of our users. Sometimes an answer is easy to give, and then the answer follows quickly. Other times this is not the case. But we do this in our free time, and for the Topicus guys we provide additional support by /using/ Wicket on our projects. But this is not a free lunch!
So please be patient and help test Wicket in many ways so we can ship the best web framework on the planet.
Martijn
Gili wrote:
Can someone please clarify when we are expecting RC3 to get released? I see a lot of noise being made about RC3 being the final release and "this is your last chance to get something into 1.0" yet I see no release schedule anywhere in sight, nor is it clear to me how the rest of the project is being managed.
Specifically, who is managing the project? Is anyone? On your webpage I see a list of contributors but it isn't clear who specializes in what. For example, we know that Chris specializes in clustering issues, but it isn't clear what the rest of the team specializes in.
When I report an issue, sometimes weeks go by before I get a reply from the team. I would like to suggest, and I would appreciate you doing this, that within 24 hours of any issue getting filed, some member of the team replies and schedules the issue. Specifically, what component does it belong to? What is the target milestone? Who is the issue assigned to? All this information should be filled in as soon as possible so the reporter knows when to expect a fix and who to talk to in case of any problems related to the issue. Right now we're left in limbo.
To be clear: I am not asking for exact release dates or any sort of guarantee on the part of the team to fix a bug when it was originally scheduled to be fixed. I am simply asking for ballpark figures, "best effort" to estimates and a general feeling that I know what is going to be happening happening next.
I know this is not of much interest to people with hobby applications but from a commercial point of view it is very important. Just my 2 cents.
Gili
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