Eelco, the user user manual looks great so far and it's really needed. 
I'm a pretty good proof-reader so I'll print it out and give you some
feedback.

I hope this is a fair statement, but I think it is still quite
different from Jonathan's manual, which was kind of like a big cookbook
stepping you through the basic examples.  Granted, that manual left a
lot of questions in my mind which you answer in the new User Manual,
like how the different stock Models work, the request Lifecycle and
such.

Do you think Jonathan's original examples manual still has a niche to
fill, or do you think the new user manual should replace it entirely? 
My impression is that when I wanted to understand the different Link
styles, for example, the old User Manual made it very easy to go find
that out.  The new User Manual doesn't seem to fit that type of newbie
question.

I wonder if another developer could take on the (relatively simple I
hope?) task of updating the API calls in Jonathan's old Examples Manual
so that it can still be useful for the 1.0 release?

I'm sorry to push on this without being able to offer to help much
myself.  :-(

- Jonathan (Carlson)


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-05-23 10:57:33 AM >>>
Hi Jonathan,

I have been working on the new user guide at: 
http://wicket.sourceforge.net/wiki/doku.php?id=newuserguide&DokuWiki=9642a4ac6dc8e7fde461ebb2f488de88.
It is far from done, but I think it makes a decent start.

Besides the fact that I am very bussy with Wicket (finding/ fixing
bugs, 
working on more examples, etc) and other stuff, and thus don't have
much 
free time left for working on the manual, I also don't enjoy working on

it much, and - as English is not my native tongue - I find it quite
hard 
to write good articles.

Anyway, I am trying the best I can, and we are also updating the 
how-to's regularily. But we can use any help for sure!

So, here's my call for help again... is there anyone out there with
good 
writing skills wanting to work on the Wicket user guide?

Eelco


Jonathan Carlson wrote:

>I'm very pleased with the work you guys have been doing.  :-)
>
>Is it really wise, though, to release 1.0 without an updated user
>manual?  I'm mostly beyond the point of needing one now.  But when I
>started out, Jonathan's user manual is what really got me over the
>initial fear of a steep learning curve.  There are too many
frameworks
>out there for me to waste time with one that doesn't give me an easy
>leg-up on the learning curve that I can hold in my hands.
>
>When 1.0 comes out, I think it is very important to capitalize on the
>attention it should garner.  Without a relatively complete and
>professional looking User Manual, any 1.0 momentum could easily be
>squandered. 
>
>Hopefully I'm out of touch with how far-along the user manual really
is
>though.  If not, couldn't someone at least take Jonathan's old User
>Manual and update it to reflect the new API changes before 1.0 goes
out?
> I'd love to volunteer, but I'm struggling for free-time as it is,
given
>that I have 3 young children and a wife.
>
>Jonathan (someone who wants Wicket to "make-it big-time")
>
>
>  
>
>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-05-22 9:14:16 AM >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>May 21, 2005 - 1.0 RC3 is out!
>
>Finally, after a month of some silence, we have produced our last 
>release candidate before we deploy 1.0. If all goes well, you will
see
>
>the final release within a week or two. The bug list now only
contains
>
>an issue relating to clustering. As such we advise you currently to
not
>
>deploy your application on a cluster, until the issues are resolved,
or
>
>to be very thorough in your clustering tests.
>
>In this release you won't see major API changes, however the
internals
>
>have improved significantly. The request cycle has now correct 
>semantics, we have improved the redirect after post pattern, which
now
>
>performs significantly better than before, and allows you to do your 
>request handling and rendering in one pass, and then redirect to the 
>rendered page. CompoundModel support has improved and works with more

>components than before. We added support for redirecting to external 
>url's (e.g. Google) directly by introducing RedirectPage.
>
>For the complete list of fixes, updates and changes please see the 
>release history.
>
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