Sorry, I haven't heard about a Cayenne IRC channel. Maybe you could
encourage them to set one up.
Be careful and don't get yourself banned from the Cayenne list, though.
:-) We want them to try out Wicket sometime soon, right?
- Jon
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-08-26 8:51:05 AM >>>
Ok, so "I've got your back" then :) I'm reading the user manual
now.
I'm less concerned about performance (I hear it is equivilent to
Hibernate anyway) and more concerned about when I run into problems
will
it be obvious how to solve them and/or will I have somewhere to ask (in
this case their mailing list).
I *do* wish, however, they had an IRC channel as I am not a fan
of
mailing lists in general (takes too long). Do you happen to know if
they
have one (official or not)?
Thanks,
Gili
Jonathan Carlson wrote:
> I've been pretty pleased with Cayenne and I'm starting soon on a
Cayenne
> implementation of Jonathan L's wicket-contrib-database stuff. Also,
the
> RAD components I'm building (and hope to check in within a week or
two)
> are abstracted enough to support different ORM tools (mainly my
> filtered List component)
>
> One caveat is that my uses so far haven't forced me to tune the
default
> Cayenne options for speed so I wouldn't be a good resource for that.
I
> was satisfied with their explanations of prefetching and query
caching,
> etc. The developers do seem to be very helpful and quick to
respond,
> and the traffic on the mailing list is consistently good.
>
> It would probably help to have another person on the Cayenne mailing
> list who is enthusiastic about Wicket. The last time I touted Wicket
on
> the list, they seemed interested, but it became obvious that many of
> them were already committed to Tapestry -- hence the Tapestry example
on
> their site with no Wicket example. :-(
>
> - Jonathan Carlson
>
>
>
>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-08-25 11:05:03 PM >>>
>
>
> I am seriously considering dumping Hibernate in favor of
Cayenne
>
> because the former has a multitude of bugs and usability issues I ran
> into which the authors refuse to acknowledge (don't mention the word
> "bug" on their discussion forum or else they will ban you. No joke!).
> Anyone who honestly thinks their software has no bugs *has* to be
> delusional in my book.
>
> Anyway, I'm wondering whether anyone has tried using Cayenne
> before? I
> noticed a lot of Wicket users have had experience with Hibernate so I
> figured this was a good place to ask. I read that Cayenne is
> feature-equivilent to Hibernate but the developers are far more
> friendly
> and their support base is stronger. With Hibernate whenever I ran
into
>
> trouble and try asking for help the developers first tell me off,
then
>
> proceed to tell me to go buy their book. Now, I can hardly fault them
> for their capitalistic ploy, but I have a hard time justifying to
> myself
> having to pay money to people who badger users asking for help.
> Frankly,
> I hope they crash and burn for their attitude.
>
> So back to the point. Does anyone have any experience with
> Cayenne or
> maybe Apache OJB? I'm look at
> http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki?ObjectRelationalToolComparison for a
> comparison but it is rather dry. I'm looking for practical experience
> from real people. Let me know...
>
> Gili
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