I give up. You keep on insulting me for no reason and I *still* don't
direct any insults towards you. Please, just drop it.
I brought this discussion up in the Wicket mailing list because I
wanted to know what people's experiences were in the context of webapp
development. I felt it made more sense to ask end-users for their
opinions than to ask on the Cayenne or Hibernate mailing lists whose
users are obviously bias toward their own solution.
Again vis-a-vis the online reference manual, I was asking questions
regarding StaleObjectStateException and you will find that it is not
discussed in depth in their manual or even in the discussion forum. They
do not explain that this exception is a normal result of optimistic
table locking and what the end-user is supposed to do about it. I *did*
routinely go back and revisit the manual and ask on IRC before asking
questions on the Hibernate mailing list. I didn't come to the Wicket
mailing list to ask Hibernate questions. I came here with the
explanation that my past six months of experience with Hibernate have
been negative and I was asking for advice about possible alternatives. I
think this is quite reasonable.
Gili
Igor Vaynberg wrote:
There is a distinct
difference between saying negative things about a *product*
versus saying negative things about a *person*. Please make
this distinction in the future.
How righteous...
(don't mention the word
"bug" on their discussion forum or else they will ban you. No joke!).
Anyone who honestly thinks their software has no bugs *has* to be
delusional in my book.
What about that though? You are making inflamatory comments about the TEAM
and not the product :)
I *did* read the manual, cover to cover. The manual is
*huge* and there is no way you can fault me for not
remembering every single detail every single time.
And no one is. Have you ever heard of looking back into the manual after you
read it once and using it as a reference, that might help. It took me two
minutes of looking through the manual to find all that information I told
you, you couldve done the same instead of bitching, whining, and claiming
stupid things.
But what sets me off at the end is the fact that you post your displeasure
of using hibernate and how you got no help from the hibernate community on
WICKET mailing list. That stuff does not belong here because it was not a
problem with you trying to use hibernate and wicket in conjunction.
-Igor
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gili
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 11:48 AM
To: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Wicket-user] Cayenne advantages
Igor Vaynberg wrote:
Sounds to me like you are claiming a problem with hibernate when in
fact it is not - it is a problem with the way YOU configured
hibernate. If you read section 19.2 of the reference - that's the
section titled second level caches - you would've seen a list of
commonly used caches and their capabilities. There are two commonly
used caches that support clusters, 10 secs of googling and voila:
http://swarmcache.sourceforge.net/
http://www.jboss.org/products/jbosscache
Fair enough. I stand corrected.
I also found the above statement inflamatory. I saw your jira/forum
posts, no one refused to fix anything - most of them were
fixable by rtfm.
I *did* read the manual, cover to cover. The manual is
*huge* and there is no way you can fault me for not
remembering every single detail every single time. The point
was that out of all the questions I've asked on their
discussion forums (over the course of over a year, I must
add), not a single one was ever answered in a useful manner.
Most got no replies and the ones that *did* get replies were
from Gavin telling me off for using the word "bug". All in
all, the discussion forums were useless to me. Now, you can
go ahead and continue blaming me for everything but I know
for a fact that at least a handful of other users I've talked
to had the same problems with Hibernate, Gavin and their
discussion forums. You might love Hibernate, great, but there
is no reason for being so hostile toward me. In our
discussions I have never directed any negative comments
towards you which implied something was wrong with you. If I
make a mistake, feel free to correct me, but don't fire off
inflammatory comments about me. There is a distinct
difference between saying negative things about a *product*
versus saying negative things about a *person*. Please make
this distinction in the future.
Gili
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