I still think webtools is much to bloated. They should contribute there editors to the core of eclipse so that eclipse has nice editors for the basic types.
Then i don't have to install webtools at all.
For starting tomcat and debugging webapps i use the Sysdeo plugin. Which is easy to use (in my eyes) and does it 'right' (compared to the jetty plugin ;) )
johan
On 4/10/06, Vincent Jenks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hmm...not familiar but it sounds like a beginner might struggle w/ something like that? I could be wrong. The webtools platform was brutally poor until recently when they managed to stabilize it...I was actually impressed the last time I test-drove it.
I'll have to check out Merve. Is it simply a plugin that deploys to tomcat? I'm using a lot of Wicket + EJB3 on JBoss 4 these days (zen, if you ask me.) I've been using Eclipse 3.1.2 & MyEclipse 4.1...couldn't be happier.On 4/9/06, Daniel Spiewak < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Personally, I prefer vanilla Eclipse 3.2, XMLBuddy and the Merve plugin (very flakey, but it works well once you figure out its idiosyncrasies).
DanielOn 4/9/06, Vincent Jenks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:That's tough since there is no ground-up tutorial like this when it comes to Wicket (that I know of.) There's a Wicket book on the way from what I understand but that may not be for a few months or so?
The best thing you can do is get a simple Hello World working on your local machine.
1. download and install Tomcat (servlet container, http server)
http://tomcat.apache.org/download-55.cgi
2. download and install Eclipse (and Eclipse Webtools)
http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/
3. download wicket, create a User Library in Eclipse and add the Wicket jars
http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.0-200406251208/eclipse-news-part5-R3.html - see section on " User-defined libraries"
4. Create a web project in Eclipse, add reference to Wicket User Library from step 3. Also set up Tomcat so you can deploy your test app to it - this should be fairly intuitive while creating your web project.
5. do this tutorial
http://wicket.sourceforge.net/ExampleHelloWorld.html
This should at least give you a few clues on how to get started ASAP on a small scale. The documentation at each of the sites for each of the projects should get you what you need.
The best way to get started is to jump in! If you're comfortable w/ Eclipse and want more than Webtools can offer you, MyEclipse is a great plugin for Eclipse...I've been using it for about 4 mo. and I love it. It's not free, however.
After all of this, deploying to a linux server or another machine of any platform should be fairly simple. A web project in eclipse webtools can be exported as a .war archive which can be dropped in just about any app server/container.
Hope this helps in some way.
-vOn 4/9/06, Daniel Spiewak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I can't think of many references that give the kind of overview you're looking for. Having just been (arguably still at) the same point you're at in terms of knowledge of web apps, I really can't say that there is a good solution. What I did is blindly followed the install instructions and then poked around with the various options checking consequences. I found as many references as I could find about wicket component details, as many tutorials as I could dig up on using them, and stumbled my way through configuring Tomcat so I could experiment.
If anyone does have any references of this type, I'm interested too. :-)
DanielOn 4/9/06, Dave Johnson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I'm an old COBOL guy who has learned enough Java to be useful in a
corporate environment where I can see the need for a new class, generate
a _javascript_ proxy to call the Java class from the UI, and build a class
with Eclipse to do the job.
Now I'd like to begin developing in Wicket for my own purposes under
Windows 2000 / XP. However, when it comes to the infrastructure of web
apps, I get mired in details much too quickly.
What are some good references that clearly explain the various levels of
software I encounter, such as Linux, Tomcat, Jetty, Hibernate, PHP,
MySQL and all the rest, and whether they're on the local machine or the
remote server? And which are even needed?
Most of what I find seems to assume too much familiarity with these
issues. I need a high-level overview that explains all this stuff
without dropping down to 300 feet so quickly. Blindly following
installation instructions doesn't work well without knowing the
consequences of various choices.
Thanks for any help.
Dave
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