Eelco Hillenius wrote:
so, no separation
There is, but not stricktly to the MVC pattern. There is no Java
framework that I know of that adhers to that original pattern anyway.
Certainly not the frameworks that claim to be 'MVC' frameworks.
Wicket comes closest to Swing. The components combine controller +
view - though Wicket seperates a few of these things with e.g.
converters and markup, and the model is a seperate thing. But I think
it is more useful to look at the actual seperation and where you need
it, than trying to fold discussion into what probably is the most
widely misused pattern in software engineering today ;)
yes i agree. i got carried away, sorry.
the point is that components today are tied in a 1:1 relationship with the
model values, converters, etc. the idea of the controller is to break that
limitation.
about the controllers. i thought something like: go over all
components, collect the controllers, filter the duplicates and then
call each controller's validate(), convert() and updateModel(). if
several components share the same controller, then it will collect the
raw data from all of them, combine it, and set the combined value in
the model
It sounds interesting. If someone wants to create a poc for this... I
like to discuss with actual code ;)
i'd be interested, but i probably don't know enough about the code, or design
rational. i also can't commit on the time i can spend on this.
Eelco
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