johan
On 5/20/06, Eelco Hillenius <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What do you mean it doesn't work? As the target platform? Sure Safari
works. Just not out-of-the-box for development.
Eelco
On 5/19/06, Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> do you have a example html for me where all the stuff is in what you do and
> where i can see/test
> in all the browsers that i have to support?
>
> I would like to have such a test html.
>
> johan
>
>
>
> On 5/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Citát Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > hmm.. that sucks. I tested in in konqueror and it worked. As far as i know
> > safari uses khtml. I wonder where the problem is...
> >
> > -matej
> >
> > > hmmm can't use it
> > > We have to target that shitty mac (sorry guys ;) ) and it seems that the
> > > default browser
> > > safari doesn't work as far as i could test.
> > >
> > > johan
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/18/06, Matej Knopp < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The doctype is xhtml transitional. But there's an additional comment
> > > > (<!-- -->) before doctype to trick IE and make it work in quirks mode.
> > > > (Because in standard compliance mode IE uses the W3C box model, which
> > > > sucks).
> > > > This should work with strict too. Also <?xml header would do this, but
> > > > wicket is kind of reluctant to print it, so i just put comment there).
> > > >
> > > > So far, this setup works (tested) for Firefox, Opera, Konqueror,
> IE5.0+.
> > > > Only thing i'm not sure with is IE7. If it won't be fooled by comment
> > > > before doctype and won't allow to set box-sizing in standard
> compliance
> > > > mode there will be a problem. I hope MS engineers are sane enough to
> > > > implement box-sizing css property, which is currently supported by any
> > > > decend browser (except for IE of course).
> > > >
> > > > -Matej
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Johan Compagner wrote:
> > > > > So you are saying that it is possible to support many browser to get
> > > > > border-box?
> > > > >
> > > > > hmm that would solve so many problems we have...
> > > > >
> > > > > So you let IE stay in quircks mode and have for firefox that
> > > > > -moz-box-sizing: border-box;
> > > > > and for other browsers (maybe IE7) the CSS3? standard: box-sizing:
> > > > > border-box;
> > > > >
> > > > > What is your doctype?
> > > > >
> > > > > johan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 5/18/06, *Matej Knopp* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Igor Vaynberg wrote:
> > > > > > allow myself to quote...myself
> > > > > >
> > > > > > || imho, html is the best layout manager out there for
> browser
> > > > > apps. add
> > > > > > css to the mix and you have a great skin manager as well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i never said css was great for layout manager :) and yes the
> box
> > > > > model
> > > > > > is broken.
> > > > > The box model really is broken. Therefore I always stick with IE
> box
> > > > > model
> > > > >
> > > > > * {
> > > > > box-sizing:
> border-box;
> > > > >
> -moz-box-sizing: border-box;
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > The only thing to take care of is not to allow IE6 to work in
> > > > > standard-compliance mode. So far, I had no problems with this
> setup.
> > > > I'm
> > > > > doing quite complicated layouts using just css (no tables) and
> > > > > everything works fine. I just hope that IE7 won't screw
> everything
> > > > up.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Matej
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Igor
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 5/17/06, *Johan Compagner* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ha! and css is easier then layout manager in java...
> > > > > > hmm that is not how i see it.
> > > > > > CSS is just plain horrible stupid box thing..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And what is a layout manager in css? There isn't one
> > > > > everything is
> > > > > > sort of absoluut positioned and then you can do in swing
> also
> > > > > > (not recommended ofcourse)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > johan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 5/17/06, *Igor Vaynberg* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > imho, html is the best layout manager out there for
> > > > browser
> > > > > > apps. add css to the mix and you have a great skin
> > > > > manager as well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the one thing you always hear swing developers
> bitching
> > > > > about is
> > > > > > how they have to fight the layout managers to get the
> > > > results
> > > > > > they want. gridbaglayout is poweful but its a huge
> pain
> > > > > to work
> > > > > > with.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > matisse+grouplayout are the holy grail for swing
> devels,
> > > > its
> > > > > > nice and easy to create layouts. but it still
> requires a
> > > > > gui to
> > > > > > do this, while i can do html easily by hand. also
> browser
> > > > > screen
> > > > > > space doesnt translate easily to the desktop space.
> in
> > > > > desktop
> > > > > > space you are pixel aware, you are also pixel aware
> of
> > > > your
> > > > > > fonts and the south east corner of the window. in
> html
> > > > > you have
> > > > > > none of these things.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > look at wingS framework examples, they use layout
> > > > > managers. look
> > > > > > how rectangular their examples look.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Igor
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 5/17/06, *Frank Silbermann *
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I, personally, don't care for HTML, and perhaps I
> > > > > might enjoy
> > > > > > programming in Echo2 better.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But suppose an employer maintained an HTML
> fragment
> > > > with
> > > > > > links to their
> > > > > > entire portfolio of web applications, and wanted
> this
> > > > > > fragment to appear
> > > > > > on every page of each web application. Since
> someone
> > > > > else is
> > > > > > maintaining that scrap and keeping it up-to-date,
> I
> > > > would
> > > > > > not want to
> > > > > > translate it into Echo 2 and maintain my own
> copy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would it not likely be easier to incorporate such
> an
> > > > HTML
> > > > > > scrap into a
> > > > > > Wicket application, versus one written in a
> framework
> > > > > such
> > > > > > as Echo 2
> > > > > > that abstracted away the HTML completely?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From:
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> > > > > >
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> > > > >
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>] On
> Behalf
> > > > > > Of Eelco
> > > > > > Hillenius
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:58 AM
> > > > > > To:
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> > > > > > <mailto:
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> > > > > <mailto: [email protected]>>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Wicket-user] Google Web Toolkit
> > > > > integration ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's certainly an intriguing idea (have a look
> at
> > > > > haxe.org < http://haxe.org >
> > > > > > <http://haxe.org> if you find
> > > > > > > it interesting), ...
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > Yeah. I see some advantages of using layout
> managers
> > > > -
> > > > > > basically the
> > > > > > same promise as Swing has - but currently I would
> > > > still
> > > > > > prefer using
> > > > > > HTML for layout. If I would like the GWT way of
> > > > > developing
> > > > > > applications, I would have choosen Echo 2 a long
> time
> > > > > ago.
> > > > > > GWT looks
> > > > > > like a next gen Echo to me, though with a very
> big
> > > > name
> > > > > > behind it, and
> > > > > > some cool innovations. ... Eelco
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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