Hi, MSR1 and PRATT (not PRRAT) should obviously lead to the same results as long as you let the calculations run until they are sufficiently well converged. By default a calculation stops after 40 iterations even if the convergence criteria are not reached. Execute run_lapw with option "-i 100" to increase to 100 for instance.
Usually, I start with MSR1. If the calculation does not seem to converge with MSR1 (infinite oscillations or diverge), I stop the calculation. Then, I restart the calculation with PRATT with a very small mixing factor like 0.05 and regenerate case.clmsum with dstart or from previous PBE calculation. Then, if the calculation seems to converge, I switch back to default parameters in case.inm to reach convergence a little bit faster. F. Tran On Wed, 16 Dec 2015, shima pourrad wrote:
Dear F.Tran I appreciate a lot because of your explanation. I ran the calculations with -ec 0.00001 convergence criteria. But unfortunately I found that I made a bad mistake : for the second calculation I forgot to change the mixing scheme to PRRAT , and it ran with the default mixing scheme which is MSR1. And this mistake causes two different results.(When I corrected mixing scheme , both calculations gave me the same results ). I apologize because of this carelessness. So I have another question, which of the two mixing schemes gives me reliable results? I mean, is it possible my first calculation (with PRRAT and mixing factor=0.2) converged to the ghost band?? In user guide it was written that: in most cases it is possible to switch back to MSR1 after some initial scf-cycles. Can we use MSR1 from the first of the calculation? What kind of mixing scheme we can use for the mbj calculations? Thanks a lot. Shima M.pourrad On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 7:39 PM, <t...@theochem.tuwien.ac.at> wrote: For the moment, I suspect that your calculations are not very well converged. Did you run the calculations with good energy and charge convergence criteria? If not, run the two calculations with -ec 0.0001 -cc 0.0001 which is fairly good criteria. Then, maybe the two calculations give same results. On Mon, 14 Dec 2015, shima pourrad wrote: Hi Thanks for your prompt answer. Yes, for the first calculation with “ EX_GRR VX_GRR” I have : Case.in0 : TOT XC_MBJ (XC_LDA,XC_PBESOL,XC_WC,XC_MBJ,XC_REVTPSS) R2V IFFT (R2V) 120 120 120 1.00 1 min IFFT-parameters, enhancement factor, iprint And case.in0_grr : TOT EX_GRR VX_GRR (XC_LDA,XC_PBESOL,XC_WC,XC_MBJ,XC_REVTPSS) R2V IFFT (R2V) 120 120 120 1.00 1 min IFFT-parameters, enhancement factor, iprint This calculation give me these results by Analysis : --- ENE ----------- in 1 files: case.scf::ENE : *WARNING** TOTAL ENERGY IN Ry = -79386.93188247 --- FER ----------- in 1 files: case.scf::FER : F E R M I - ENERGY(TETRAH.M.)= 0.4117108915 --- GAP ----------- in 1 files: case.scf::GAP : 0.0564 Ry = 0.767 eV (provided you have a proper k-mesh) For the second calculation with “ EX_GRR EC_NONE VX_GRR VC_NONE” I have: Case.in0 : TOT XC_MBJ ( (XC_LDA,XC_PBESOL,XC_WC,XC_MBJ,XC_REVTPSS) R2V IFFT (R2V) 120 120 120 1.00 1 min IFFT-parameters, enhancement factor, iprint And case.in0_grr : TOT EX_GRR EC_NONE VX_GRR VC_NONE ( (XC_LDA,XC_PBESOL,XC_WC,XC_MBJ,XC_REVTPSS) R2V IFFT (R2V) 120 120 120 1.00 1 min IFFT-parameters, enhancement factor, iprint And its results : --- ENE ----------- in 1 files: case.scf::ENE : *WARNING** TOTAL ENERGY IN Ry = -79386.93585459 --- FER ----------- in 1 files: case.scf::FER : F E R M I - ENERGY(TETRAH.M.)= 0.4269866858 --- GAP ----------- in 1 files: case.scf::GAP : 0.0423 Ry = 0.575 eV (provided you have a proper k-mesh) what is your opinion? Sincerely Shima M.Pourrad On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 6:11 PM, <t...@theochem.tuwien.ac.at> wrote: Hi, "XC_MBJ" in the 1st line of case.in0 indicates that the mBJ method will be used. For mBJ, it is necessary to have also the file case.in0_grr such that the average of grad(rho)/rho in the unit cell [used for Eq. (3) in PRL 102, 226401 (2009)] is calculated. According to a test that I've just made it does not matter which one of these two is specified in case.in0_grr: "EX_GRR EC_NONE VX_GRR VC_NONE" "EX_GRR VX_GRR" So, I don't understand why you got two different results. Can you show us the input files case.in0 and case.in0_grr that you used for the two calculations? F. Tran On Mon, 14 Dec 2015, shima pourrad wrote: Dear P.Blaha and F.Tran and Wien2k Users I am running wien version14.2 .The purpose of my calculations is to get accurate gap and band structure. Hence I am performing MBJ calculations with the parameters special to semiconductors. I would like to ask how we should edit case.in0_grr for a mbj calculation in wien2k14.2 ? I read the user guide and checked the mailing list before, I didn’t find any obvious instruction. In user guide, it was written that: when you perform init_mbj_lapw for the second time, some steps must do automatically: * edit case.in0 and change the functional to option XC_MBJ. (ok this step is done). * cp case.in0 case.in0_grr and choose EX_GRR VX_GRR in case.in0_grr. But this step, when I open the case.in0_grr to check that, at first line, it was written that: EX_GRR EC_NONE VX_GRR VC_NONE. Is it a correct edition? Should I remove “EC_NONE VC_NONE” from the first line? I think “EX_GRR EC_NONE VX_GRR VC_NONE” means that correlation energy and potential are ignored! But “EX_GRR VX_GRR” alone, means there is a kind of correlation energy and potential as a default for usual mbj calculation. Did I realize correctly?? You answered the question about the use of the PBE instead of LDA for the energy before: http://www.mail-archive.com/wien%40zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg13395.html And it is stated that how we must change case.in0 . But there is no instruction for case.in0_grr. What should be done for this issue? (What kind of edition is correct for case.in0_grr? “EX_GRR VX_GRR”? Or “ EX_GRR EC_NONE VX_GRR VC_NONE”?? I performed both of them for one structure, and got very different result: different Gaps, different total energies and different Fermi-energies!!! ) Please help me. Sincerely Shima M.Pourrad PhD student of physics in condensed matter Science and Research Branch Islamic Azad University _______________________________________________ Wien mailing list Wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at http://zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/mailman/listinfo/wien SEARCH the MAILING-LIST at: http://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/index.html _______________________________________________ Wien mailing list Wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at http://zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/mailman/listinfo/wien SEARCH the MAILING-LIST at: http://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/index.html
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