Hi,

MSR1 and PRATT (not PRRAT) should obviously lead to the same results
as long as you let the calculations run until they are sufficiently
well converged. By default a calculation stops after 40 iterations
even if the convergence criteria are not reached. Execute run_lapw with
option "-i 100" to increase to 100 for instance.

Usually, I start with MSR1. If the calculation
does not seem to converge with MSR1 (infinite oscillations or diverge),
I stop the calculation. Then, I restart the calculation with
PRATT with a very small mixing factor like 0.05 and regenerate
case.clmsum with dstart or from previous PBE calculation.
Then, if the calculation seems to converge, I switch back to default
parameters in case.inm to reach convergence a little bit faster.

F. Tran

On Wed, 16 Dec 2015, shima pourrad wrote:


Dear F.Tran

I appreciate a lot because of your explanation. I ran the calculations with  
-ec 0.00001 convergence criteria. But unfortunately I
found that I made a bad mistake : for the second calculation I forgot to change 
the mixing scheme to PRRAT , and it ran with the
default mixing scheme which is MSR1. And this mistake causes two different 
results.(When I corrected mixing scheme , both
calculations gave me the same results ). I apologize because of this 
carelessness.

So I have another question, which of the two mixing schemes gives me reliable 
results? I mean, is it possible my first calculation
(with PRRAT and mixing factor=0.2) converged to the ghost band??  In user guide 
it was written that: in most cases it is possible
to switch back to MSR1 after some initial scf-cycles. Can we use MSR1 from the 
first of the calculation? What kind of mixing scheme
we can use for the mbj calculations?  

Thanks a lot.

Shima M.pourrad


On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 7:39 PM, <t...@theochem.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
      For the moment, I suspect that your calculations are not very well
      converged. Did you run the calculations with good energy and charge
      convergence criteria? If not, run the two calculations with
      -ec 0.0001 -cc 0.0001
      which is fairly good criteria. Then, maybe the two calculations
      give same results.


      On Mon, 14 Dec 2015, shima pourrad wrote:


            Hi

            Thanks for your prompt answer.

            Yes, for the first calculation with “ EX_GRR VX_GRR” I have :

            Case.in0 :

            TOT  XC_MBJ     (XC_LDA,XC_PBESOL,XC_WC,XC_MBJ,XC_REVTPSS)          
           

            R2V      IFFT      (R2V)

             120 120 120    1.00  1    min IFFT-parameters, enhancement factor, 
iprint

             

            And case.in0_grr :

            TOT  EX_GRR VX_GRR     (XC_LDA,XC_PBESOL,XC_WC,XC_MBJ,XC_REVTPSS)   
                  

            R2V      IFFT      (R2V)

             120 120 120    1.00  1    min IFFT-parameters, enhancement factor, 
iprint

             

             This calculation give me these results by Analysis :

            --- ENE -----------

            in  1 files:

            case.scf::ENE  : *WARNING** TOTAL ENERGY IN Ry =       
-79386.93188247

            --- FER -----------

            in  1 files:

            case.scf::FER  : F E R M I - ENERGY(TETRAH.M.)=   0.4117108915

            --- GAP -----------

            in  1 files:

            case.scf::GAP  :    0.0564 Ry =     0.767 eV   (provided you have a 
proper k-mesh)

             

            For the second calculation with “ EX_GRR EC_NONE VX_GRR VC_NONE” I 
have:

            Case.in0 :

            TOT   XC_MBJ (  (XC_LDA,XC_PBESOL,XC_WC,XC_MBJ,XC_REVTPSS)          
           

            R2V      IFFT      (R2V)

             120 120 120    1.00  1    min IFFT-parameters, enhancement factor, 
iprint

             

            And case.in0_grr :

            TOT   EX_GRR EC_NONE VX_GRR VC_NONE (  
(XC_LDA,XC_PBESOL,XC_WC,XC_MBJ,XC_REVTPSS)                     

            R2V      IFFT      (R2V)

             120 120 120    1.00  1    min IFFT-parameters, enhancement factor, 
iprint

             

             

            And its results :

            --- ENE -----------

            in  1 files:

            case.scf::ENE  : *WARNING** TOTAL ENERGY IN Ry =       
-79386.93585459

            --- FER -----------

            in  1 files:

            case.scf::FER  : F E R M I - ENERGY(TETRAH.M.)=   0.4269866858

            --- GAP -----------

            in  1 files:

            case.scf::GAP  :    0.0423 Ry =     0.575 eV   (provided you have a 
proper k-mesh)

             

            what is your opinion?

            Sincerely

            Shima M.Pourrad


            On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 6:11 PM, <t...@theochem.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
                  Hi,

                  "XC_MBJ" in the 1st line of case.in0 indicates that the mBJ 
method
                  will be used. For mBJ, it is necessary to have also the file 
case.in0_grr
                  such that the average of grad(rho)/rho in the unit cell
                  [used for Eq. (3) in PRL 102, 226401 (2009)] is calculated.

                  According to a test that I've just made it does not matter 
which one
                  of these two is specified in case.in0_grr:
                  "EX_GRR EC_NONE VX_GRR VC_NONE"
                  "EX_GRR VX_GRR"

                  So, I don't understand why you got two different results.
                  Can you show us the input files case.in0 and case.in0_grr
                  that you used for the two calculations?

                  F. Tran

                  On Mon, 14 Dec 2015, shima pourrad wrote:


                        Dear P.Blaha and F.Tran and Wien2k Users

                        I am running wien version14.2 .The purpose of my 
calculations is to get accurate gap and band
            structure. Hence I am performing MBJ calculations with the 
parameters special to semiconductors.

                        I would like to ask how we should edit case.in0_grr for 
a mbj calculation in wien2k14.2 ?

                        I read the user guide and checked the mailing list 
before, I didn’t find any obvious
            instruction.

                        In user guide, it was written that: when you perform 
init_mbj_lapw for the second time, some
            steps must do automatically:

                         *
                            edit case.in0 and change the functional to option 
XC_MBJ. (ok this step is done).

                         *
                             cp case.in0 case.in0_grr and choose EX_GRR VX_GRR 
in case.in0_grr.

                        But this step, when I open the case.in0_grr to check 
that, at first line, it was written that:
            EX_GRR EC_NONE VX_GRR VC_NONE. Is it a correct edition? Should I 
remove “EC_NONE VC_NONE” from the first
            line?

                        I think “EX_GRR EC_NONE VX_GRR VC_NONE” means that 
correlation energy and potential are
            ignored! But “EX_GRR VX_GRR” alone, means there is a kind of 
correlation energy and potential as a default
            for usual mbj calculation. Did I realize
                        correctly??

                        You answered the question about the use of the PBE 
instead of LDA for the energy before:
            
http://www.mail-archive.com/wien%40zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/msg13395.html

                        And it is stated that how we must change case.in0 .

                        But there is no instruction for case.in0_grr. What 
should be done for this issue?

                        (What kind of edition is correct for case.in0_grr? 
“EX_GRR VX_GRR”? Or “ EX_GRR EC_NONE VX_GRR
            VC_NONE”?? I performed both of them for one structure, and got very 
different result: different Gaps,
            different total energies and different
                        Fermi-energies!!! )

                        Please help me.

                        Sincerely

                        Shima M.Pourrad

                        PhD student of physics in condensed matter

                        Science and Research Branch
                        Islamic Azad University


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