The model for this is WP:Book sources, though this relies upon the user selecting the appropriate places to look, rather than guiding him.
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Jodi Schneider <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 21 Jul 2010, at 19:47, Brian J Mingus wrote: > > Finn, > I'm not a fan of including a portion of the the title for a couple of > reasons. First, it's not required to make the key unique. Second, it makes > the key longer than necessary. Third, the first word or words from a title > are not guaranteed to convey any meaning. > Regarding a Reference: namespace, I can see how this has some utility and > why projects have moved to it. However, I consider it a stopgap solution > that projects have implemented when what they really want is a proper wiki > for citations. Here are a few quick things that you can't do (or would have > to go out of your way to do) with just a Reference namespace that you can do > with a wiki dedicated to all the world's citations: > - Custom reports that are boolean combinations of citation fields, ala SMW. > This requires substantive new technology as SMW doesn't scale. > - User bibliographies which are a logical subset of all literature ever > published. > > Not sure why a Reference namespace couldn't do this. > > - Conduct a search of the literature. > > Or this (you can search just one namespace) > > - A new set of policies that are not necessarily NPOV, regarding the > creation of articles that discuss collections of literature (lit review-like > concept). The content of these policies will emerge over years with the help > of a community. These articles could, for instance, help people who are > navigating a new area of a literature avoid getting stuck in local minima. > It could point out the true global context to them. It could point out > experimenter biases in the literature; for example, a recent article was > published where it was found that citation networks in academic literature > can have a tendency to form based on the assumption of authority, when in > fact that authority is false, bringing a whole thread of publications into > doubt. > > I'm not sure that literature reviews belong in the same wiki as citations. > That's definitely a different namespace. :) > > - Create wiki articles about individual sources. > > This might or might not be the same wiki -- but that could be interesting. > I could imagine a page for a journal being pulled in from several sources: > the collection of citations in the wiki for that journal, RSS from the > current contents (license permitting), a Wikipedia page about the journal > (if it exists), a link to author guidelines/submission info, open access > info from SHERPA/ROMEO, .... In this vision, very little of the content > "lives" in this wiki itself. Rather, it's templated from numerous other > places.... Perhaps in the way "buy this book" links are handled in > librarything -- there are numerous external links which can be activated > with a checkbox, and some external content that is pulled in based on > copyright review. > > While I am not dedicated to any of these things happening, I also do not > wish to rule them out. The hope is that a new community will emerge around > the project and guide it in the direction that is most useful. My hope in > this thread is that we can identify some of the most likely cases and > imagine what it will be like, so that we can convey this vision to the > Foundation and they can get a sense of the potential importance of the > project. > > Scoping is a big problem, I think -- because it would help to have a vision > of which of several related tasks/endpoints is primary. > I think an investigation of what fr.wikipedia is doing would be really > useful -- does anybody edit there, or have an interest in digging into that? > Questions might include: What is the reference namespace doing? What isn't > it doing, that they wish it would? Did they consider alternatives to a > namespace? How is maintenance going? Do they see the reference namespace as > longstanding into the future, or as a stopgap? > -Jodi > _______________________________________________ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > -- David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
