There's a difference between a project to centralize the various references in Wikipedia, and an attempt to build a universal bibliographic database. The first is a reasonable project, though I think everyone involved has underestimated the extent to which normalization and manual aggregation will be needed.
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Samuel Klein <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for those links, John. > > I agree that a separate project is needed to have a central source > that all language versions of all projects can reference. The > citations version of Commons. > > I like the French model of using "Article name (Authors)" as a key. > Perhaps with "Article name (Authors, Year)" if needed to disambiguate. > This shares a design principle with the move away from CamelCase to > freeform article titles: one should be able to insert an article name > into a natural sentence, and link the appropriate section of the > sentence, and have it take you to the appropriate article. > > To DGG's question: in the long run, the scope of "all cited works" can > be captured in such a project, at least for the works cited on a wiki > Project -- anyone making a new citation would either find it already > in the project or would add it. Whether this covers all works cited > by active academics of scholars depends on how effectively we draw > them into our community and help them see where an extra minute of > work on their part will help thousands of their readers, reviewers, > and reusers. > > SJ. > > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:13 AM, John Vandenberg <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Finn Aarup Nielsen <[email protected]> wrote: >>>.. >>> Do anyone knows anything about the French discussions on the introduction of >>> the 'Reference' namespace? Should we just implement the French system on the >>> English Wikipedia and we are there? >> >> This was discussed on en.wp in late 2007... >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29/Archive_14#Is_there_a_centralized_bibliographic_database_for_wikipedia.3F_Is_there_a_way_to_make_citations_just_by_giving_an_universal_ID_instead_of_copying_a_full_citation_template.3F >> >> The proposal on fr.wp in early 2006: >> >> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Prise_de_d%C3%A9cision/Espace_r%C3%A9f%C3%A9rence >> >> -- >> John Vandenberg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki-research-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >> > > > > -- > Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > -- David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
