So, if I can re-ignite and re-frame the original question I posed,
- Why do we need a "wiki journal" if there are already high impact journals that are receptive to high quality "wiki studies"? -Aaron On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Manuel Palomo Duarte <[email protected]>wrote: > Nice post, Kerry. Let me add that the citation rates are calculated using > the cites in reputated journals already indexed ... > > > 2012/11/8 Kerry Raymond <[email protected]> > >> Actually the reputation of journals is usually derived from its impact >> factor**** >> >> ** ** >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_factor**** >> >> ** ** >> >> which is all about citation rates rather than acceptance/rejection rates. >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> Acceptance rates are sometimes used for newer journals as citation rates >> aren’t available. But it doesn’t follow that a new journal must reject >> reasonable papers in order to achieve some desired acceptance rate. A new >> journal (properly advertised) will probably attract a lot of papers that >> have been rejected elsewhere so you probably end up with plenty of >> worthy-of-rejection material. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> There is no way to get an immediate “great reputation” for a new journal. >> But I think a clear focus on topic, a hard-working international editorial >> team, and a firm but fair reviewing process and reviewers will yield >> good-quality papers and will attract more good quality papers in response >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> Kerry**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Aaron >> Halfaker >> *Sent:* Friday, 9 November 2012 1:51 AM >> *To:* Research into Wikimedia content and communities >> *Subject:* Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Journal? - Why?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> "Highly rated" is an interesting property. One of the ways that a >> publication venue becomes highly rated is by being highly restrictive. In >> fact, the primary measurement of the quality of a publication venue is the >> acceptance rate of that conference. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> WikiSym is not considered highly rated because a high proportion of the >> submitted papers are accepted. Would a wiki journal be more restrictive in >> order to gain a "highly rated" status? **** >> >> ** ** >> >> I think it's interesting to ask why WikiSym needs improvement and why >> attendance has been falling. If a WikiSym is a wiki conference that is >> struggling to maintain participation, how might a wiki journal surmount >> such trouble? Assuming that the answer to my question above is "yes, the >> wiki-journal would be more restrictive", how would such a journal gather >> more submissions than an established conference like WikiSym -- enough to >> both produce regular issues and maintain a high rejection rate?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> -Aaron**** >> >> ** ** >> >> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Joe Corneli <[email protected]> >> wrote:**** >> >> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Aaron Halfaker <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > To state it plainly, why do we need yet another publication venue >> specific to wiki software?**** >> >> I think people want a "highly rated" publication venue. Also, >> >> «The reason why WikiSym is changing is for the same reason. People are >> not going to the conference! I think the attendance has been below >> 100 for some time now. That's not a sustainable number for the amount >> of work that goes into organizing a conference.» >> >> But what you're saying suggests that maybe work should be done to >> improve existing venues rather than creating a new one. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki-research-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l**** >> >> ** ** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki-research-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >> >> > > > -- > Prof. Manuel Palomo Duarte, PhD > Software Process Improvement and Formal Methods group (SPI&FM). > Degree Coordinator for Computer Science. > Department of Computer Science. > Escuela Superior de Ingenieria. > C/ Chile, 1 > 11002 - Cadiz (Spain) > University of Cadiz > http://neptuno.uca.es/~mpalomo > Tlf: (+34) 956 015483 > Mobile phone: (+34) 649 280080 > Mobile phone from University network: 45483 > Fax: (+34) 956 015139 > > Aviso legal: Este mensaje (incluyendo los ficheros adjuntos) puede > contener información confidencial, dirigida a un destinatario y objetivo > específico. 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