MHO: only if they don't review wiki studies properly ... 2012/11/8 Aaron Halfaker <[email protected]>
> So, if I can re-ignite and re-frame the original question I posed, > > > - Why do we need a "wiki journal" if there are already high impact > journals that are receptive to high quality "wiki studies"? > > > -Aaron > > > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Manuel Palomo Duarte <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> Nice post, Kerry. Let me add that the citation rates are calculated using >> the cites in reputated journals already indexed ... >> >> >> 2012/11/8 Kerry Raymond <[email protected]> >> >>> Actually the reputation of journals is usually derived from its impact >>> factor**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_factor**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> which is all about citation rates rather than acceptance/rejection rates. >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Acceptance rates are sometimes used for newer journals as citation rates >>> aren’t available. But it doesn’t follow that a new journal must reject >>> reasonable papers in order to achieve some desired acceptance rate. A new >>> journal (properly advertised) will probably attract a lot of papers that >>> have been rejected elsewhere so you probably end up with plenty of >>> worthy-of-rejection material. **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> There is no way to get an immediate “great reputation” for a new >>> journal. But I think a clear focus on topic, a hard-working international >>> editorial team, and a firm but fair reviewing process and reviewers will >>> yield good-quality papers and will attract more good quality papers in >>> response**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Kerry**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Aaron >>> Halfaker >>> *Sent:* Friday, 9 November 2012 1:51 AM >>> *To:* Research into Wikimedia content and communities >>> *Subject:* Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Journal? - Why?**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> "Highly rated" is an interesting property. One of the ways that a >>> publication venue becomes highly rated is by being highly restrictive. In >>> fact, the primary measurement of the quality of a publication venue is the >>> acceptance rate of that conference. **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> WikiSym is not considered highly rated because a high proportion of the >>> submitted papers are accepted. Would a wiki journal be more restrictive in >>> order to gain a "highly rated" status? **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I think it's interesting to ask why WikiSym needs improvement and why >>> attendance has been falling. If a WikiSym is a wiki conference that is >>> struggling to maintain participation, how might a wiki journal surmount >>> such trouble? Assuming that the answer to my question above is "yes, the >>> wiki-journal would be more restrictive", how would such a journal gather >>> more submissions than an established conference like WikiSym -- enough to >>> both produce regular issues and maintain a high rejection rate?**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> -Aaron**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Joe Corneli <[email protected]> >>> wrote:**** >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Aaron Halfaker <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > To state it plainly, why do we need yet another publication venue >>> specific to wiki software?**** >>> >>> I think people want a "highly rated" publication venue. Also, >>> >>> «The reason why WikiSym is changing is for the same reason. People are >>> not going to the conference! I think the attendance has been below >>> 100 for some time now. That's not a sustainable number for the amount >>> of work that goes into organizing a conference.» >>> >>> But what you're saying suggests that maybe work should be done to >>> improve existing venues rather than creating a new one. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Prof. Manuel Palomo Duarte, PhD >> Software Process Improvement and Formal Methods group (SPI&FM). >> Degree Coordinator for Computer Science. >> Department of Computer Science. >> Escuela Superior de Ingenieria. >> C/ Chile, 1 >> 11002 - Cadiz (Spain) >> University of Cadiz >> http://neptuno.uca.es/~mpalomo >> Tlf: (+34) 956 015483 >> Mobile phone: (+34) 649 280080 >> Mobile phone from University network: 45483 >> Fax: (+34) 956 015139 >> >> Aviso legal: Este mensaje (incluyendo los ficheros adjuntos) puede >> contener información confidencial, dirigida a un destinatario y objetivo >> específico. 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And I ask you >> to delete this mail, and not to resend, copy or distribute its content, as >> well as develop or execute any action based on the same. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki-research-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > -- Prof. Manuel Palomo Duarte, PhD Software Process Improvement and Formal Methods group (SPI&FM). Degree Coordinator for Computer Science. Department of Computer Science. Escuela Superior de Ingenieria. 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