Gerard, That link you just sent shows the names in the category (I see there are already a few more than 264 - cool). Could it be possible to have the Q numbers shown as well? Now I see the Q number with mouse-over, but if Magnus (cc'ing him now) could let me screen-scrape those then I can first update my data and then send you my m-f data with Q numbers. Jane
2014-04-21 9:03 GMT+02:00, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]>: > Hoi, > There are only 264 people identified as Radcliffe alumni. Someone did a job > on adding this fact to Wikidata so I started off with some 250 already. I > completed the list. The category information on Wikidata includes a query > that shows you the current number.. There is a similar query on the Harvars > alumni category by the way. > > http://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?&q=8618565 > > As to your proposal to have a list and idenfity the Wikidata items from > them.. Given that ToolScript does JavaScript, it should be doable. I would > ask Magnus to write an example that I could copy and change.. > Thanks, > GerardM > > > On 21 April 2014 08:28, Jane Darnell <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Gerard, >> Actually historically speaking, there will be fewer Harvard alumni as >> women because they graduated from Radcliffe, not Harvard, no? >> >> Anyway, how about a trade - I will send you all of my male-female data >> with Wikipedia entity names, and you send me back the Q numbers? Or >> can you only accept data with Q numbers as a field? >> >> Jane >> >> 2014-04-21 7:58 GMT+02:00, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]>: >> > Hoi, >> > I blogged about the issue of sex ratios on Wikidata [1]. The experiment >> > I >> > did with Harvard alumni was to get some idea about the number of humans >> who >> > were not yet known as human. I added a substantial number of them to >> > have >> > an item for each entry in the category on the English Wikipedia. I >> > assume >> > that as a group they are relatively well covered; they are ivy league >> > and >> > some of the best and brightest studied there. When you look at the sex >> > ratio for the Harvard educated, you will find that it is worse than for >> the >> > general population. I suppose it is an indication of the amount of >> > items >> > that still need to be identified as human. >> > Thanks, >> > Gerard >> > >> > >> > [1] >> http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2014/04/wikidata-its-sex-ratio.html >> > >> > >> > On 21 April 2014 00:53, Stuart A. Yeates <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Gerard Meijssen >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > To be blunt, Wikidata gains the quantitative quality I am looking >> >> > for >> >> when only male and female >> >> > is added where applicable. Transgender issues with respect are edge >> >> cases. >> >> >> >> Transgender issues are primarily raised because they're vitally >> >> important for people today, but they're not the only issues. >> >> >> >> Far more numerically superior are the issues of people writing under >> >> other-gendered pseudonyms; that's a systemic problem, in the GND data >> >> for example. "Lord Charles Albert" "Florian Wellesley" and "Currer >> >> Bell" were only outed as pseudonyms of Charlotte Brontë once she >> >> achieved a certain level of fame. Modern analysis suggests that there >> >> are probably thousands if not tens of thousands of other writers who >> >> never achieved that level of fame and never had their pseudonyms >> >> revealed. GND and similar library data commonly base their gender data >> >> on nothing more than the apparent gender of the name on the cover page >> >> (librarianship practice, unlike archival practise, takes such things >> >> at face value). To take that librarianship practise out of context and >> >> assert that that those thousands or tens of thousands of authors were >> >> men (rather than just publishing under male or ambiguous names) isn't >> >> going to get you sued, but that doesn't mean it's not the >> >> white-washing of generations of women writers. >> >> >> >> cheers >> >> stuart >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wiki-research-l mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >> >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki-research-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >> > _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
