On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Edward Saperia <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 2 July 2014 15:37, Oliver Keyes <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I feel like that might be a bit short-notice - papers need to be >> submitted, reviewed or voted on, so on and so forth. But it could be lovely >> to have a 'best presentation' award for WM itself! > > > Well, we could pick from things featured in the research newsletter, for > example? How do you imagine the winner to be chosen? We can always do > something more structured for next year. But this might be a good way to > launch the idea of a research award. > > Ed > Not an award, but it seems worth mentioning https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/The_State_of_Wikimedia_Scholarship_2013-2014 here ...
(Anyone who is going to be in London and has ideas or feedback about the newsletter: don't hesitate to say hi ;) >> >> On 2 July 2014 10:33, Edward Saperia <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I really like the idea of some kind of annual award. >>> >>> >>> If someone puts it together before Wikimania, I can put it into the >>> closing ceremony? >>> >>> Edward Saperia >>> Conference Director Wikimania London >>> email • facebook • twitter • 07796955572 >>> 133-135 Bethnal Green Road, E2 7DG >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On 2 July 2014 10:15, Aaron Halfaker <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Given that it seems we agree with Poitr's desire for research about >>>>> Wikipedia to lead to useful tools an insights that can be directly applied >>>>> to making Wikipedia and other wikis better, what might be a more effective >>>>> strategy for encouraging researchers to engage with us or at least release >>>>> their work in forms that we can more easily work with? >>>>> >>>>> Here's a couple of half-baked ideas: >>>>> >>>>> Wiki research impact task force -- contacts authors to encourage them >>>>> to release code/datasets/etc. and praise them publicly when they do -- >>>>> could >>>>> be part of the work of newsletter reviewers. There are many researchers >>>>> on >>>>> this list who work directly with Wikimedians to make sure that their >>>>> research has direct impact and their awesomeness is worth our appreciation >>>>> and public recognition. >>>>> Yearly research award -- for the most directly impactful research >>>>> projects/researchers similar to >>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikimedia_France_Research_Award. >>>>> One of the focuses of the judging could be the direct impact that the work >>>>> has had. >>>>> >>>>> -Aaron >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 7:05 AM, Heather Ford <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Apologies. You're right, Han-Teng. The reviewer looks to be Piotr >>>>>> Konieczny who I think is on this mailing list? >>>>>> >>>>>> Heather Ford >>>>>> Oxford Internet Institute Doctoral Programme >>>>>> EthnographyMatters | Oxford Digital Ethnography Group >>>>>> http://hblog.org | @hfordsa >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2 July 2014 12:58, h <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Heather, I am not sure who contribute that. Probably not Nemo. If >>>>>>> this issue of newsletter is correctly attributed, the contributors >>>>>>> include: >>>>>>> Taha Yasseri, Maximilian Klein, Piotr Konieczny, Kim Osman, and Tilman >>>>>>> Bayer. My suggestion is only a personal one, and I am not sure if it is >>>>>>> against policies to make a few edits once the newsletter is out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks again to the contributors of the newsletter, my life is a bit >>>>>>> easier and more interesting because of your work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2014-07-02 15:35 GMT+07:00 Heather Ford <[email protected]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> +1 Thanks for your really thoughtful comments, Joe, Han-Teng. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nemo, would you be willing to add a note to the review and/or >>>>>>>> contacting the researcher? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> Heather. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Heather Ford >>>>>>>> Oxford Internet Institute Doctoral Programme >>>>>>>> EthnographyMatters | Oxford Digital Ethnography Group >>>>>>>> http://hblog.org | @hfordsa >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2 July 2014 05:17, h <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The tone of the sentence in question >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 'it is disappointing that the main purpose appears to be >>>>>>>>> completing a thesis, with little thought to actually improving >>>>>>>>> Wikipedia' >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> could have been written as >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 'It would be more useful for the Wikipedia community of >>>>>>>>> practice if the author discussed or even spelled out the implications >>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>> research for improving Wikipedia". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This suggestion is based on my own impression that >>>>>>>>> [Wiki-research-l] has mainly two groups of readers: community of >>>>>>>>> practice >>>>>>>>> and community of knowledge. It is okay to have some group tensions for >>>>>>>>> creative/critical inputs. Still, a neutral tone is better for >>>>>>>>> assessment, >>>>>>>>> and an encouraging tone might work a bit better to encourage others >>>>>>>>> to fill >>>>>>>>> the *gaps* (both practice and knowledge ones). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also, the factors such as originally intended audience and word >>>>>>>>> limits may determine how much a writer can do for *due weight* >>>>>>>>> (similar to >>>>>>>>> [[WP:due]]). If the original (academic) author failed to address the >>>>>>>>> implications for practices satisfactory, a research newsletter >>>>>>>>> contributor >>>>>>>>> can point out what s/he thinks the potential/actual implications are. >>>>>>>>> (My >>>>>>>>> thanks to the research newsletter's voluntary contributors for their >>>>>>>>> unpaid >>>>>>>>> work!) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> While I understand that the monthly research newsletter has its >>>>>>>>> own perspective and interests different from academic newsletters, it >>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>> not sacrifice the integrity of the newsletter to be gentle and >>>>>>>>> specific. I >>>>>>>>> would recommend a minor edit to the sentence as the the newsletter >>>>>>>>> could be >>>>>>>>> read by any one in the world, not just the Wikipedians. It is >>>>>>>>> public/published for all readers, and thus please do not assume the >>>>>>>>> readers >>>>>>>>> know the context of Wikipedia research. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> han-teng liao >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2014-07-01 19:37 GMT+07:00 Heather Ford <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much for the newsletter [1]! Always a great read... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But have to just say that comments like this: 'it is disappointing >>>>>>>>>> that the main purpose appears to be completing a thesis, with little >>>>>>>>>> thought >>>>>>>>>> to actually improving Wikipedia' [2] are really harsh and a little >>>>>>>>>> unfair. >>>>>>>>>> The student is studying Wikipedia - they can hardly only be >>>>>>>>>> interested in >>>>>>>>>> completing their thesis. We need to remember that researchers are at >>>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>>> different stages of their careers, they have very different >>>>>>>>>> motivations, and >>>>>>>>>> different levels of engagement with the Wikipedia community, but >>>>>>>>>> that *all* >>>>>>>>>> research on Wikipedia contributes to our understanding (even if as a >>>>>>>>>> catalyst for improvements). We want to encourage more research on >>>>>>>>>> Wikipedia, >>>>>>>>>> not attack the motivations of people we know little about - >>>>>>>>>> particularly >>>>>>>>>> when they're just students and particularly when this newsletter is >>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>> housed on Wikimedia Foundation's domain. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>> Heather. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter/2014/June >>>>>>>>>> [2] >>>>>>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter/2014/June#.22Recommending_reference_materials_in_context_to_facilitate_editing_Wikipedia.22 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Heather Ford >>>>>>>>>> Oxford Internet Institute Doctoral Programme >>>>>>>>>> EthnographyMatters | Oxford Digital Ethnography Group >>>>>>>>>> http://hblog.org | @hfordsa >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Oliver Keyes >>>> Research Analyst >>>> Wikimedia Foundation >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Oliver Keyes >> Research Analyst >> Wikimedia Foundation >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki-research-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > -- Tilman Bayer Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications) Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
