Wow Kerry

Reading your email - this Australian nodded throughout. I think it raises
many of the challenges of digital engagement.

I do think the respect-o-meter would make a great research project. A
survey comparing how different groups/activities are valued would at least
raise the awareness that digital volunteering is a thing.

Within Australia we have obvious candidate groups of digital volunteers to
survey in terms of Wikimedia, Open Street Map, Trove, people working in
open data projects and genealogy etc
A global survey could also provide comparisons between countries/cultures.

And a conference paper or journal article wouldn't hurt:)

Cheers Pru
Pru Mitchell
Vice-President Wikimedia Australia
[email protected]

On 6 April 2017 at 03:08, Kerry Raymond <[email protected]> wrote:

> Disclaimer. I don't proclaim to be an expert on any of this. It's just my
> opinion and is a commentary about Australia with which even other
> Australians may disagree.
>
> - Differences and importance. I'll address these together because I think
> they are linked.
>
> I think within the community there are "shades of grey" when it comes to
> volunteering. I would say in the Australian community those who engage in
> "hands on" volunteering in the most demanding roles get the greatest
> respect. If you fight a bushfire for days on end without sleep or you help
> wash a drunken homeless man in a shelter, most people think "it's great
> that they will do that because it needs to be done" but "I couldn't do
> that" or "I would not want to do it". Whereas being a surf lifesaver (say)
> isn't seen as quite as deserving of respect, yes, they do save lives from
> time to time (maximum respect at that point in time), but in between
> there's also a lot of lounging about the beach chatting up the girls and
> competing in surf boat races, and whizzing around the beach on a quad bike
> (lower levels of respect). Whereas if you do fundraising for the same
> organisations, it's still seen as worthwhile but sorting the second-hand
> clothes donations isn't quite as demanding as risking your life, and
> running the charity luncheon fundraiser with the A-listers and celebs is
> even less undesirable (indeed, actively desirable for the social climber).
> Yet it's all volunteering for a "worthy cause" but the respect levels are
> quite different.
>
> So where does digital volunteering fit in this scheme of things? Probably
> pretty low down on the respect-o-meter. Firstly I doubt if most people
> would even realise digital volunteering existed. But if they were made
> aware of it, then if you did some kind of digital volunteering such as
> doing mapping during a disaster (we get lots of cyclones, bushfires and
> floods here so it is very important to know what road is open, how deep the
> creek is, where are the power lines down, where are the trapped and the
> injured), people would think that worthwhile but still not with the same
> respect as the volunteers who actually go out in the little boats and drag
> people from rooftops and floating cars or fight the blaze etc, using the
> maps the digital volunteer provided. Or to put it another way, a digital
> volunteer generally doesn't risk dying, having to handle a dead body, and
> nobody vomits/bleeds over them.
>
> If we look at digital volunteering in something like Wikipedia or
> HistoryPin, yes, there is some appreciation but most people probably guess
> that you do it when it suits you, you do what it suits you to do (i.e.
> relates to your own hobbies/interests), and can be done in the comfort of
> your own home. When I do Wikipedia talks and training, people often tell me
> that they always donate to Wikipedia each year because they appreciate it
> so much that they want to ensure its continued existence, but rarely do say
> they appreciate the people who produce the content. In fact, most people
> seem to completely unaware of where the content comes from. So I don't
> think there's huge respect for Wikipedians really. Or to put it another
> way, Australians appreciate someone who would try to save them from the
> flood more than someone who would argue that their death wasn't a
> run-of-the-mill drowning at Articles for Deletion. :-)
>
> On the Australian respect-o-meter, I think digital volunteering probably
> sits somewhere between running the charity "op shop" (recycled second hand
> clothes etc) and the organising of fundraising celebrity luncheons. I don't
> think any volunteering that involves wearing expensive clothes and carrying
> a glass of champagne really gets that much respect in Australia. Digital
> volunteering is probably seen as having similar characteristics to the "op
> shop" in that there's probably a lot of time commitment, can be tedious and
> repetitive and doesn't give the volunteer anything much in return beyond a
> "warm glow" of having done something useful to others. I think most people
> would think digital volunteering was not a social activity (unlike the "op
> shop" where there are usually teams rostered on a regular basis and the
> socialising is often part of the reward for doing the volunteering). I
> don't think that the non-social nature of it alters its perceived value but
> I think it might lead to the perception that digital volunteers are geeky
> loners who don't want/need social relationships. I think I get more respect
> for my Wikipedia outreach work (Wikipedia edit training etc) than I do for
> my Wikipedia contributions, perhaps because it is more "helping others" in
> a face-to-face way, but I actually believe myself that my contributions are
> more valuable (give once and the whole English-speaking world can benefit).
>
> The core characteristic of digital volunteering - using a computer? More
> seriously, using a computer to create content where the analog equivalent
> would not be as useful (e.g. hard to copy paper maps and distribute them
> and keep them updated during an emergency). I don't think being a volunteer
> who counsels suicidal people in an online chat room  would be seen by most
> people as digital volunteering; the use of the Internet would simply be an
> alternative to phone or face-to-face. The counselling itself is the core of
> their volunteering, rather than the means by which they communicate.
> Similarly I don't think maintaining the spreadsheet for the charity
> luncheon would be seen as digital volunteering. The core of the
> volunteering needs to have a  "must-be digital" quality  for digital
> volunteering.
>
> What should authorities (at various levels) do for digital volunteers?
> Well, they do very little for volunteers of any kind currently so I am not
> sure they are likely to do anything different for digital volunteers. In
> Australia, there is no tax deductibility for expenses incurred in
> volunteering (a volunteer firefighter generally pays for their own
> protective outfits and their equipment, large 4WD trucks, is usually funded
> through fundraising by the volunteer firefighters association). However,
> many employers will choose to give paid leave (additional to normal leave
> entitlements) to staff, who are called out to respond to an emergency as
> volunteers, but not usually for some regular commitment of time at the
> homeless shelter or for emergency-callout training.
>
> Legally most (all?) of our states in Australia have the "Good Samaritan
> Act" or similar which ensures "that legal protection is extended to
> ordinary persons who, without the expectation of a fee or reward, assist
> people in emergency situations". That *might* be seen as extending to
> emergency digital mapmaking that due to inaccuracy caused harm to someone,
> but I doubt that the situation of emergency digital assistance been tested
> in our courts; the legislation was motivated to avoid the public being
> afraid to assist injured people for fear of being sued if they
> unintentionally made matters worse (a much more hands-on situation). I
> can't see it extending to Wikipedia contributions somehow.
>
> In my observation, for emergency situations, authorities prefer to engage
> with volunteer organisations with large numbers of volunteers, clearly
> defined roles, training programs and some systems of certification in
> relation to specific skills (e.g. first aid, boat handling, radio
> operations), and the ability to deploy rapidly. For example, our State
> Emergency Service is a good example of a volunteer organisation that is
> deployed in emergencies.
>
> http://www.ses.qld.gov.au/about/Pages/What-We-Do.aspx
>
> For ongoing situations like homeless shelters, etc, there will often be
> contractual arrangements with the volunteer organisation based around grant
> funding of some kind with KPIs, reporting obligations etc. That is, the
> government generally wants to deal with large professionally-run
> organisations, albeit composed largely of volunteers. For example, if you
> choose to volunteer at one of our major hospitals, you will have formal
> inductions, you will have a roster of regular days for volunteering and you
> will be dropped as a volunteer if you don't attend enough of your shifts or
> don't do what you are supposed to get done (it's just too much management
> hassle to deal with such a volunteer). The expectations are as high as that
> of an employee (arguably higher as they can't sack an employee as easily as
> a volunteer).
>
> http://www.mater.org.au/Home/Support/Volunteers
>
> In Australia digital volunteers are not usually operating within such
> kinds of organisation or with that kind of rigidity. Nor do I think we have
> that kind of size of organisation. I've done Map-Ups with Open Street Map,
> but I've never been a member of anything officially, never been trained,
> etc. Even the guy who did the local organising didn't seem sure if there
> actually was an organisation you could formally join. A Map-Up involved
> turning up at some park in a random suburb, have a BBQ breakfast, parcel
> out the map areas, drive around making notes of errors or missing things,
> meet for lunch at a pub, spend the afternoon adding/updating the OSM.
> Wikimedia Australia has a membership that teeters between 30-60 people
> spread thousands of kilometres apart, so we don't even get the BBQ
> breakfast. I can't see any government desiring to engage with either OSM
> within Australia (not even sure how you would contact it anyway) nor WMAU
> (at least we have an email address). It's not as if WMAU can round up
> hundreds of digital volunteers for some purpose. Despite Wikipedia's claim
> that "Brisbane's metropolitan area has a population of 2.35 million, and
> the South East Queensland region, centred on Brisbane, encompasses a
> population of more than 3.5 million", I can't get more than 10 people to a
> Brisbane meetup once/twice a year and I can't find anyone to assist with
> edit training and nobody has ever certified me as competent to conduct
> training or make contributions. In contrast the State Emergency Service has
> 6,000 volunteers trained and ready to rappel down a cliff face or
> coordinate swift water rescues, and probably with certificates to prove
> their competency.
>
> I am not sure if that answers your questions. But it was a
> thought-provoking set of questions.
>
> Kerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wiki-research-l [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Julian Fischer
> Sent: Tuesday, 4 April 2017 8:46 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Wiki-research-l] Digital engagement / digital volunteer work
>
> Hi all,
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland is planning a workshop (June 23, 2017) on digital
> engagement / digital volunteer work.
>
> The aim of the workshop is to identify with other stakeholders ("classic"
> NGOs, Free- and Open-Movement, Volunteers, state authorities) open
> questions on digital engagement / digital volunteer work that should be
> answered.
>
> Research questions could be as follows:
> - What is the difference between digital and analog engagement?
> - What are the core characteristic of digital engagement?
> - What should state authorities on the national and local level do in
> order to support digital volunteers?
> - How important is digital engagement for our society?
> - ...
>
> Is there anybody from the Wikimedia movement who can help us to broaden
> our German perspective and give us international insides on this topic (e.g.
> via a ten minutes video message)?
>
> Do you know any inspiring study?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Julian Fischer
> Head of Volunteer Support
>
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