Hi Federico,
Thanks for the clarification! I also think that it is very difficult to
understand bias--where it is coming from and what is contributing to
it--when it has not been measured. I originally came here looking for
information about the existing gender balance of citations on Wikipedia so
that I could begin to understand what is happening. My concerns have
unfolded over the course of this conversation.

I am cc'ing Gerard here because I received his note via digest but wanted
to say thank you. I am curious about how best to approach using wikidata to
generate useful information about gender balance and if there are any
issues around doing this.

Thanks all,
Greg

On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 12:43 AM Federico Leva (Nemo) <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Greg, 31/08/19 05:17:
> > Thanks, Federico. Do you mean that examining gender bias is more
> > relevant to google than wikipedia? Or necessary before any work can be
> > done here?
>
> I'm saying that any gender bias of citations on Wikipedia articles will
> compound a number of factors, including the underlying bias in the
> literature, bias in how it's presented in discovery tools, etc. As long
> as we don't know the size of such underlying biases, I suspect an
> attempt to measure Wikipedia's specific contribution would be futile.
>
> It's also a standard research practice to break down a problem into
> smaller parts, easier to manage. Google Scholar or similar tools are
> already large enough. Millions of Wikipedia authors and all their
> background and methods are however significantly larger.
>
> Federico
>
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