https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582
--- Comment #252 from Mr.Z-man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2008-11-30 22:21:02 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #250)
> @MrZman:
> Yeah that would pretty much work correctly because autoformatted links can be
> created via [[[[:]]]]
What? That doesn't make any sense at all. Ideally, if anything is done as a
result of this bug, partially reversing current behavior won't be part of it.
AFAIK, [[:date]] is currently used to link a date *without formatting it.* If
all of a sudden they start autoformatting, its going to break every every
existing use.
> I did not speak specifically about English Wikipedia (in fact I did not know
> (or noticed) that you had implemented autoformatting there. I hope it was not
> deployed too on French Wikipedia because I doubt that this "autoformatting"
> will work correctly there and that you really know how French dates are
> formatted !
Date autoformatting in MediaWiki has been around since 2003. There are 5
different options and the default is no autoformatting.
> Suggestion for the choice of the syntax (that DOES NOT create a link):
> {{#2000-12-31}}. No conflict there because it uses the prefix for parser
> functions, and no parser function can have a name starting by a digit... But I
> wonder why you absolutely want a short syntax for dates specifically but not
> for other features that may want a shorter syntax that would be much more
> useful.
I agree a parser function would be better than creating a whole new syntax, or
breaking existing syntax to do it.
> The need for autoformatting would mean that the writer of an article does not
> know how to format a date in the SINGLE main language of the target Wiki (or
> page or section, if a page can be marked specifically as using another target
> language, something that is possible with the "xml:lang=" attribute name,
> which
> is also already recognized by MediaWiki as the "lang=" atttribute name of HTML
> elements). If that writer does not know that, what is the meaning of the rest
> of the page, beside this isolate date? Can't the editor directly format the
> date himself (including in templates that would like to format computed
> dates)?
No, it means people may not want the normal style of dates used on the wiki.
Using the English Wikipedia as the obvious example, British users may want the
"date month year" format, American users the "month date year" format. Others
may want the ISO 8601 format.
> Yeah! Two hacks introduced recently in English Wikipedia (and badly
> documented), two errors, and now you're thinking about compatiblity elsewhere
> ?
> No. you shoulmd revert this "support", as it is completely UNNEEDED and
> generates more problems than what it is supposed to solve.
>
What? As I said, date autoformatting has been around for 5 years.
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