https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40251
Minh Nguyễn <[email protected]> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |[email protected] See Also| |https://bugzilla.wikimedia. | |org/show_bug.cgi?id=40250 --- Comment #5 from Minh Nguyễn <[email protected]> 2012-09-14 19:12:25 UTC --- Bug 40250 addressed this issue for Vietnamese, but Niklas thinks CLDR should be fixed. I disagree: MediaWiki’s use of the plural: magic word is incompatible with CLDR. According to the CLDR spec [1]: “Note that these categories may be different from the forms used for pronouns or other parts of speech. In particular, they are solely concerned with changes that would need to be made if different numbers, expressed with decimal digits, are used with a sentence. If there is a dual form in the language, but it isn't used with decimal numbers, it should not be reflected in the categories.” In the case of Vietnamese (and most likely other languages), there are plural forms, but not in the example they give (“Duration: 1 hour” → “Duration: 3.2 hours”). Instead, these plural forms occur where there is no decimal number (“the following user” → “the following 5 users”; “this page” → “these pages”). MediaWiki’s English localization has long used the plural: magic word for avoiding legalese like “page(s)”, and plenty of localizations at TranslateWiki have followed suit. In cases where a decimal number is displayed unconditionally, the Vietnamese localization simply omits the plural: magic word. In short, I think overriding the plural rules is the right approach, and we should do the same for the other languages in the same boat. Just take a look at the translations of [[MediaWiki:Category-subcat-count]] for supposedly plural-less languages like Indonesian or Chinese. Currently all of these languages’ localizations are severely broken: numbers are not showing up in many of the places they should, such as category counts and list totals in special pages. [1] http://cldr.unicode.org/index/cldr-spec/plural-rules -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
