https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40307

MZMcBride <b...@mzmcbride.com> changed:

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--- Comment #5 from MZMcBride <b...@mzmcbride.com> 2012-09-18 03:38:53 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> As for closing on click: yes, it depends on the context in some other apps. I
> don't think we should--or need to--follow that model because it requires
> learning and guesswork on the part of the user with little to no improvement 
> on
> visual design. Users will learn the feature without confusion if we
> consistently use our affordances. I don't think I see issues with an 
> affordance
> appearing on hover, as long as it's present.

I think using auto-hide for these kinds of notifications makes for poor site
accessibility. There's a lot of text and it's difficult to read it all quickly.
The current message displays for five seconds and contains the following text:

---
The page "Main Page" has been added to your [watchlist]. Future changes to this
page and its associated talk page will be listed there, and the page will
appear bolded in the [list of recent changes] to make it easier to pick out.
---

Imagine that a new user, just having registered an account, clicks the star
icon. He or she is expected to read (and understand) all of this in five
seconds before the message disappears? Plus there are two links in there. But
pretty soon the message has disappeared; who knows, you may have been reading
another window or tab (bug 40322). This is kind of nasty behavior, in my
opinion.

I think the hover trick (where putting your cursor over a message will cause
the message to not auto-hide) is non-obvious. Admittedly Microsoft Outlook does
something similar with e-mail inbox message previews.

And not everybody has a hover state these days. Are cursor-less users just
expected to read everything very quickly?

Maybe it makes sense to not auto-hide for new users only. Or maybe auto-hide
isn't as evil as it seems. I think this needs more thought.

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