https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40270
--- Comment #31 from morningaltair (Asahiko) <[email protected]> 2012-11-01 05:03:03 UTC --- Dereckson: Thanks! wikipedianjp2007: === Timeline === I doubt that there was "very limited discussion prior" to this poll. May 27: The issue was first brought up by Taisyo at Idobata [1]. The discussion seems to have dispersed and didn't draw a concrete conclusion. July 9: Another discussion started at [2]. July 25: A Request For Comments was filed for the above discussion. [3] August 4: From many of the proposals in above, Taisyo proposes to implement one of them in advance because it is technologically trivial. [4] September 15: Participants of this discussion establish consensus and posts on bugzilla. The rest you can follow. Nemo_bis gave concerns, and a formal voting procedure started. At this time, just in case you weren't checking Idobata every day and didn't notice, the announcements that a poll is going to start soon was on WP:NEWS (at which point I first saw the issue); and once the voting period started, was on Mediawiki:Sitenotice (that means on top of every single page! surely you must've saw that?) and Community Portal. The only way to get this issue more known was to put a message on every single user's talk page. The poll had a 10 day prior-discussion period before it actually started and a week to voice any concerns. It couldn't go on forever, so there must be a fixed end date and declare the outcome at that point decisive. At least that's how it was done this time. === Future issues === Curiously enough, jaWP has a how-to-document for straw polls [5] but not for more formal polls. Therefore, the organizer of this poll proposed that they borrow from the process established for Request For Adminship and Motions For De-adminship (the requirement to participate was set equal to an RfA, and the process also had a "objection period" like in the more cautious De-admin), was agreed upon, and was executed. This is as formal as it gets within the current rules agreed upon, so I don't buy your argument that this was a "simple straw poll". But if you're intending to set up more careful and deliberate process that the jaWP community can apply for these kinds of general issues, I'm all for it. Anyway, this issue is over for now and this is no place to discuss the general consensus establishment policy of jaWP. You might want to bring up the issue in jaWP if you're interested. [1] "半保護に可変設定機能を追加することについて" (About adding variable functionality to semi-protection) https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E4%BA%95%E6%88%B8%E7%AB%AF/subj/%E5%8D%8A%E4%BF%9D%E8%AD%B7%E3%81%AB%E5%8F%AF%E5%A4%89%E8%A8%AD%E5%AE%9A%E6%A9%9F%E8%83%BD%E3%82%92%E8%BF%BD%E5%8A%A0%E3%81%99%E3%82%8B%E3%81%93%E3%81%A8%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A4%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6 [2] "継続的なブロック破りユーザへの対処について" (About users repeatedly avoiding blocks) http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia%E2%80%90%E3%83%8E%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88:%E8%8D%92%E3%82%89%E3%81%97#.E7.B6.99.E7.B6.9A.E7.9A.84.E3.81.AA.E3.83.96.E3.83.AD.E3.83.83.E3.82.AF.E7.A0.B4.E3.82.8A.E3.83.A6.E3.83.BC.E3.82.B6.E3.81.B8.E3.81.AE.E5.AF.BE.E5.87.A6.E3.81.AB.E3.81.A4.E3.81.84.E3.81.A6 [3] diff [[ja:WP:RFC]] https://ja.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:%E3%82%B3%E3%83%A1%E3%83%B3%E3%83%88%E4%BE%9D%E9%A0%BC&diff=43482063&oldid=43481326 [4] "自動承認基準引き上げの先行導入について" (About raising the autoconfirm condition in advance) https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia%E2%80%90%E3%83%8E%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88:%E8%8D%92%E3%82%89%E3%81%97#.E8.87.AA.E5.8B.95.E6.89.BF.E8.AA.8D.E5.9F.BA.E6.BA.96.E5.BC.95.E3.81.8D.E4.B8.8A.E3.81.92.E3.81.AE.E5.85.88.E8.A1.8C.E5.B0.8E.E5.85.A5.E3.81.AB.E3.81.A4.E3.81.84.E3.81.A6 [5] "調査投票の方法" (How to hold a straw poll) https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E8%AA%BF%E6%9F%BB%E6%8A%95%E7%A5%A8%E3%81%AE%E6%96%B9%E6%B3%95 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
