https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19363





--- Comment #10 from Helder <[email protected]>  2009-06-25 18:38:56 UTC 
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Hi Roan!

(In reply to comment #9)
> Currently, autosummaries are not part of the interface, but are saved in the
> database verbatim. This means that for every revision, there's only one 
> summary
> in one language that everybody sees. For this reason, it's undesirable to have
> this stored in the UI language, because then an edit made by a Brazilian 
> person
> would show an edit summary in pt-br for everyone.
> 
Suppose that a user speaks the language PT-BR and has set this in the
preferences. When the user do an edit at the project EN.wikipedia, I can
imagine three possible behaviors that autosumaries we could have:
(1) The user sees "Editing $1 (new section)" when previewing and "/* $1 */ new
section" in the history and recent changes. If the user changes from PT-BR to
any other language, these messages remain UNCHANGED;
(2) The user sees "Editando $1 (nova seção)" when previewing and "/* $1 */
nova seção" in the history and recentchanges. If the user changes from PT-BR
to any other language, these messages remain UNCHANGED;
(3) The user sees "Editando $1 (nova seção)" when previewing and "/* $1 */
nova seção" in the history and recentchanges. If the user changes from PT-BR
to any other language, these messages CHANGES according to the new language;

Currently, what we have is the version (1).

Considering that (A) the "new section" part of the messages are _not_ typed by
the user, and that (B) what the user type is usually in the language set in the
preferences (PT-BR), and that (C) the sumaries should be saved exactly as they
are when the user preview his edit, I think that what makes more sense for the
user is the option (2).

Maybe what I've said in my previous comments was not clear, but I'm not asking
to have the option (3): the second one makes more sense.

(In reply to comment #8)
> Lot's of work for minor benefit, imho.
> 
By the way, this is indeed a "minor benefit" but it has confused me a lot =S
when I came across this: The default language at Portuguese projects is PT and
I'm Brazilian, so I set PT-BR in the preferences. But every time I've created a
new section since I collaborate at pt.wikibooks I see "nova secção" instead
of "nova seção". And this looks like a "typo" considering that the language
was set to PT-BR, and not PT. So I was looking at
http://pt.wikibooks.org/wiki/Especial:Todas_as_mensagens
, then at
http://pt.wikibooks.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Discuss%C3%A3o:Newsectionsummary
and then at translatewiki
http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=MediaWiki:Newsectionsummary/pt-br&action=edit&loadgroup=core&loadtask=view
trying to understand what is wrong... =/
It took me a while before I realize this is what MediaWiki was "supposed" to
do...

So the current behavior do not seems the correct one...

Question: Is it difficult to change from (1) to (2)?

> > How can I found where is wfMsgForContent defined at svn?
> > 
> It's in includes/GlobalFunctions.php . What it does is format a message in the
> content language as opposed to the UI language.
> 

Thanks!

Helder


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