https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41807

Nikola Smolenski <[email protected]> changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Nikola Smolenski <[email protected]> 2012-11-07 07:32:16 
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Relevant Wikidata discussion:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team#Special_language_code_.22mul.22.2FTranslingual

I believe this bug is highly related to bug 36430, if not a duplicate of it.
mul is just the top of the language fallback pyramid.

(In reply to comment #4)

> Ok, here's the use case. Consider a wikidata page with labels in 20 languages.
> Each label will be tagged in the HTML code with the correct language and
> directionality attributes. However:
> 
> * What do we put into the HTTP Content-Language header? I think "mul" would be
> correct there. Similarly, when supplying DC meta data about a page (as the OAI
> extension does), there is only one language code that can be provided, so 
> "mul"
> would be the correct choice.

Interface language, which is also the language of the title of the page. This
is a list of words in many languages, but the list itself is in one language
however little linguistic content it has.

> * More urgently, we need a code that we can use as a general fallback - Many
> things (especially people and places, i.e. over 50% of the content of 
> wikipedia
> and thus wikidata) have "native" versions of their name that should act as a
> fallback for all other languages - and that name is indeed the correct one for
> *multiple* languages. I doubt that there are renderings for the town 
> "Rackwitz"
> in languages other than German. Having to set this string redundantly for 300

You lost your bet: Serbian rendering is Раквиц in Cyrillic or Rakvic in Latin.
Languages that use Latin alphabet generally just reuse the name; languages that
use other alphabets generally transliterate or transcribe the name; Chinese
have to even translate it.

You owe me one beer at the Bavaria pub at the destroyed church; John will tell
you why is this bad for you :)

> languages makes no sense to me. So, setting "Rackwitz" as the value for the
> "mul" code, and falling back on this, makes sense. Using "en" for this purpose
> would be grossly misleading, especially in cases where the "native" form is 
> not
> using latin characters (say, Руза).

But I fully agree with this, and I would even go one step further: use the code
mul-de (multilingual content of German origin). This would allow us to in some
cases automatically convert and display the names in languages that use
different alphabets.

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