https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38095

--- Comment #10 from Nemo <[email protected]> 2012-11-20 16:22:20 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #8)
> (In reply to comment #7)
> > (In reply to comment #6)
> > > +5 billion. Getting the info from a sysadmin in some cases is more work 
> > > then
> > > fixing the issue. Its also important to have this info to triage bugs.
> > 
> > The only useful case may be when a developer without op access can see the
> > backtrace the bug may be fixed immediately.
> 
> Well that's a main one for sure (And the one that most directly applies to 
> me).
> However there's other. User's can figure out if their issue is already filed 
> or
> not based on the error message received. Sometimes the report with just the 
> hex
> number lingers too long to make it easy to retrieve (Example: bug 39336 
> comment
> 4)

Does this really still need to be proved? It's quite obvious that the error
messages without error messages and just with codes are useless; it's only
slightly better than not showing any error and just relying on the sysadmins to
carefully skim the logs, or on the users to provide precise timestamps (which
is by the way what most websites do, and they're all broken or – I guess – they
have much more people reading the logs).

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