https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46744
Nemo <[email protected]> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #7 from Nemo <[email protected]> --- (In reply to comment #3) > ULS shouldn't be on by default for everyone in the first place, and instead > detect for the intended use cases. It already does. The use cases are more than you appear to know, though; have you read bug 46306? (In reply to comment #6) > As someone who has absolutely no need for a different input method (my > keyboard works just fine), I don't see why I'm being presented with such a > drop-down menu. Something seems amiss here. > > > Generally, UniversalLanguageSelector's scope and purpose is unclear to me. As > someone who writes and reads in English, I have no need for this drop-down > menu > or the "english" link in the personal tools section. Right: your keyboard, you don't see, to you, you. Not valid as general assumptions. > It'd be nice to not add > clutter to the interface for users like me. It's quite normal for websites to have such "clutter". > It also seems that UniversalLanguageSelector's scope has increased from > being a > universal language selector to also providing display preferences (e.g., I > can > select "OpenDyslexic" as my display font via ULS). It doesn't seem like a > great > idea to mix purposes like this. It can seem a purpose mixing only to you who have decided it can't be useful/used for English speakers; but it's just your wrong premise. It was a rather trivial extension of functionality for ULS. In general: 1) ULS is meant to be useful for all users, including English speakers blabla, although some obviously benefit from it more than others (but think of language selection for an article, replacing interlanguage links); 2) in the current state of technology, there is no way at all to reliably mind-read the user to know what sort of language options are best in all the use cases, which is why selectors are needed in the first place. Therefore, with the current summary, this bug is invalid. I suggest you to read [[mw:ULS]] completely; for instance the user profile <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector/Interaction_Design_Framework#Rakha> directly addressed some of the questions. As for the personal tools, it was found to be the best location for this tool; the fact that all the preferences related to ULS are available there, instead of cluttering Special:Preferences with another section of little discoverability, is something that addresses the concerns about preferences bloat you mentioned, rather than ignoring them. Anyway, this part is duplicate of bug 46306. Of course there are separate bugs for specific tweaks like adjustment of timing for IME icon, settings from the IME icon itself, some sort of link from Special:Preferences to the ULS settings; and more tweaks are surely possible. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
