https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49860
Stegop <[email protected]> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |[email protected] --- Comment #35 from Stegop <[email protected]> --- The arguments of the all-mighty, all-wise developpers, guardians of the ''Wikimedia principles'', or whatever, can be resumed like that: 85% of the editors of one of the 10 wikipedias with more articles don't give a damn about the ''Wikimedia principles'' and basically are complete morons. Who cares about the the damage that IP's cause to the information that is in the articles? And so what that the editors can't cope with the amount of damage that comes from IP's? More important than the quality of the articles is that nice idea that everything is done to guarantee that whoever wants to put the dummiest joke on an article or any copy/paste isn't bothered; after all, the main job of the registered editors is to spend 80% of their time reverting and correcting the rubish and spam "contributed" by the others, all in the name of "anybody can edit", as if it was too complicated creating a login or writing down a captcha. ''"Oh, but there are are more effective methods of diminishing vandalism"''. Ok, again we are dumb because we weren't able to discuss and implement them. Maybe your paternalism and ''superior'' judgement would be more useful if you said something like "why don't you consider implementing this and that method and we'll talk about the captcha in one or two monthes?". Instead of that you, like the worst of the politians and used cars sellers, pretend that the perception of 85% of the people who are worried about vandalism and, instead of making beautiful speeches about the wiki spirit, do their best to preserve a minimum of quality to the "moron's" pt.wikipedia , are all wrong because nobody did a "study". If you are worried about participation, if you have wee bit of life experience, you are shooting your feet with a canon, because there is nothing more harmful to a comunity (more if it is made of volontaries) than to call them morons with "paternalist" or "pseudo-moralist" atitudes like yours. If you knew how to read Portuguese you would notice that even people who are against the captcha are really angry with your atitude and now it will be much more difficult to refuse radical proposals that can be implemented without the the aproval of the all-mighty "guardians of the Wikimedia ethics". Supposedly powerful governments fall in the street for much less and remember that here the real danger isn't any kind of real rebellion, but something much more damageful to the project: the mass abandonment of the projet from editors that in one day bring more to the project that all the IP's in one week. Dismiss these arguments any way you want, you can call them exxagerated, catastrophic, radical, unpolite, subversive, whatever; I don't give a damn... After all, I am a volontary who has believed that my work of many hundred of hours doing my best to preserve and improving the quality of Wikipedia was part of something which was worth, a really free project where little big games of power, sex of the angels discussions and alikes were secondary. If you convince me that I don't belong here because my ideas are all wrong, better for me, and surely that the project will hardly notice that I finally decided that it's wiser to me to find another way of spending all the time I spend here. But remember that there will be much more people thinking and doing the same. But, as in real life, here we notice the same tendency of those who have a little power in their hands, that makes them think that they know better about what should be done than those who are on the terrain. I am too old for such a thing coming as a surprise, but while I almost gave up fighting against situations like this in professional life because there I am obliged to cope with that, in volontary projects is much harder to tolerate that anyone tells you that you and 85% of your peers that participate in a poll are complete moron proposing this or that. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
