https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46306

--- Comment #40 from Risker <[email protected]> ---
(In reply to comment #36)
> Comment 33 explained already: High-level discussions about ULS are better
> suited on the mailing list at
>     https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n 
> If you would like to discuss what "Wikimedia the Tech company" is doing
> wrong,
> please do it but at
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Forum
> 
> Can we now please stay ontopic? Bugzilla is not a forum.

There's no right place, Andre, and we all know that. We ask for something to be
fixed anywhere, and we're told to write a bugzilla, even for "high level"
matters.  And then if we write a bugzilla about an issue that nobody wants to
address, we're told to join some mailing list that has no authority to address
the issue, or post on some noticeboard that also has no authority to address
the issue and probably isn't even being watched by anyone who *can* address the
issue. Or we can post on MediaWikiWiki, where non-techs are pretty routinely
ignored.  Please keep this in mind: I've been told to join the tech-ambassadors
mailing list in order to follow upcoming technical changes, but the two recent
really major technical changes (VE and ULS) haven't been mentioned on that list
at all.

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