https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56537

--- Comment #15 from Mark Holmquist <[email protected]> ---
(In reply to comment #11)
> Face it. These are "Upcoming features". They will be deployed no matter if a
> few angry users don't like them.

Well, yeah. A few angry users don't outweigh the importance of building new,
potentially better things for the good of the projects.

If we let emotion and a few individual opinions affect our ability to get
things done, I doubt even the people we'd appeased by backing out would respect
us. Certainly nobody else would, including ourselves.

We're not in "beta" because we expect to have to scrap the project. That's
almost certainly not going to happen. We deployed to get feedback. Guess what?
We got it! And now we're building an even more kickass bunch of projects for
the next iteration.

(In reply to comment #14)
> Why does WMF build a separate one that can't be controlled by
> the communities and calls it "Beta" instead of what it really is?

Do you want to help maintain these projects? We have infrastructure for that.
I'll happily sponsor you for +2 rights on them after a few patches and
demonstrating that you're playing nice as a contributor.

> After looking at the actual implementation of the "Typography Update" I hope
> you are right. This is not even "Beta". I'm afraid deploying such "half-baked
> ideas" will make things worse, no matter how you call it.

If you're concerned, file a bug against it and make noise there. This isn't the
arena for that discussion.

And now I'm going to hit "save changes", and hopefully be able to talk about
this bug instead of some topic that doesn't belong here.

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