https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66450

--- Comment #33 from Ajraddatz <[email protected]> ---
(In reply to James Alexander from comment #32)

> I would question your statement that I would not make use of it as someone
> who does quite a lot of log reading and checkusering in my job ;). 

I thought about that after I posted my comment. Certainly no offence meant, and
sorry if it was overly confrontational or dismissive. What I know is that I
would regularly use it, and I've been trying to drive that point home here :).

My comment was also a bit confusing there. I think the most benefit would come
from both having the log display IPs and being integrated with CU. Simply being
integrated with CU would be little change from what we have now. In the
interim, I think that the log displaying IPs would be best, and the integrating
with CU when possible.

> I am not yet completely convinced that there is sufficient need to display
> the IP to non advanced users though (I would currently think CU/Steward)
> though I don't have a real issue with the log itself (without IP) being
> shown to Sysops or others who interact with the TBL/Abusefilter. My biggest
> worry is the 'ridiculous false positives' part, I can see a lot of cases
> where I'd be able to piece together IP information on regular users in those
> cases (though I can certainly see a high desire to want to KNOW when those
> cases are happening).

I'd agree that CU/steward access would make the most sense. There is definitely
some potential for inferencing IPs --> accounts, but no more than what already
exists. Most LTAs/spambots use mobile ranges it seems these days, so any check
can have the potential for false positives. Same with the ACC interface, or
even just looking at the histories of articles that new users have edited. I'd
argue that the potential benefits here outweigh the potential risks.

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