https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68612

--- Comment #3 from Minh Nguyễn <m...@1ec5.org> ---
(In reply to Dereckson from comment #1)
> 28 people have participated to the consultation, 18 supports the motion.

If I'm counting correctly, [[vi:Wikipedia:Biểu quyết/Quyền moderator]] had
comments from 21 users and 4 IPs. That turnout is par for the course at the
Vietnamese Wikipedia, and the 86% approval rate may be one of the highest this
year. (The "Ý kiến" section is for comments, not neutral votes.)

The straw poll at [[vi:Wikipedia:Biểu quyết/Tên gọi Moderator]] had comments
from 19 users and 4 IPs, split among nine options.

> I wonder if it's acceptable to let 18 person choose to introduce a word with
> such a negative connotation in the projects and if another name of the group
> wouldn't be more appropriated. Because this will have an impact in other
> projects: "Yes, you have moderators, see vi. for example.".

"Moderator" was just a working title until we could come up with a suitable
Vietnamese term. "Điều phối viên" literally means "coordinator", so would it be
possible to use that as the internal group name?

> Furthermore, we're here in yet another strange rights divide situation.
> People trusted to delete, undelete, protect articles should normally be
> trusted to be full sysops.

I was of the same opinion, but the general consensus was that the
administrators need help with these tasks in particular, and that a number of
users were interested in helping to fight vandalism but didn't consider
themselves ready for adminship. The idea is that there will be little in the
way of adminship once a user becomes a ĐPV.

(In reply to Vogone from comment #2)
> Funnily there are examples for both concerns you mentioned. The Dutch
> language Wikipedia calls its sysops "moderators"[1] and the Portguese
> language Wikipedia has so-called "eliminators"[2], users with similar rights
> assigned as proposed here. So I don't believe viwiki's proposal is that
> revolutional. :-P

"Eliminator" actually sounds pretty cool -- wish I'd thought of that -- but
every Vietnamese translation I can think of sounds too much like "censor".

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