| Multichill added a comment. |
In T184948#4075653, @Ladsgroup wrote:In T184948#4059447, @Multichill wrote:In T184948#4052662, @Ladsgroup wrote:I personally would like to strip the right from the bots and enforce a rate limit for them as they just don't care about what we say.
If bots ignore replag ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bot_policy#Edit_throttle_and_peak_hours ) these bots should just be stripped of the botflag. The good shouldn't suffer because of a small number of problematic users.
Too many edits in too small amount of time can affect infra in several ways, one is replag, one is dispatch lag, one is jobqueue size. If edit is about creating new items it can also affect the infra in some other ways too as we want to be consistent about Q-ids and do not assign same Q-ids to two items.
Overall, if community stick to a rule of thumb like *max* 60 edits / min. and *max* 10 new items/min. and community actually enforces that (and don't wait until the whole infra falls down and we ping them so they stop), there wouldn't be a need to have such ticket in here in the first place but this continues to happen all the time.
It's basically Widar (quick statements) that is going to fast, see last comment at https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Project_chat&oldid=655772082#Rate_speed_for_QuickStatements on how to fix that. Or are you aware of any other tools that are going to fast. Nuclear option is to disable Widar and enable it again after the speed issues have been fixed.
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