| Micru added a comment. |
In T193728#4220248, @Cirdan wrote:I'm again sorry to say that, but your comments show a deeply flawed understanding of copyright.
Thank you then for using your time to enlighten me and whoever who might be reading this conversation.
Copyright of texts is by no means "flexible". It seems you are confusing plagiarism and copyright violation, which are completely separate categories (the former is a concept in the context of academic scholarship, the latter a concept in the context of law). What we are discussing here is whether data collections licensed under CC-BY-SA or other non-CC-0 licenses (like OSM) can be imported to Wikidata. The licenses of these collections do not simply vanish because one alters some words or uses a computer program to extract the information.
Wikipedias rephrase the content of works under copyright and rebrand that content as CC-BY-SA, which label do you put to that practice? In which way is it different from doing the same with any content and rebranding it as CC0?
If there are cases where copyright law permits the extraction of information from copyrighted texts, then this applies to CC-BY-SA licensed texts as well, so there is no need to change CC-BY-SA to extract information from Wikipedia.
That would be ideal.
It's not a "clarification", it would constitute a retroactive conversion of CC-BY-SA into a license which is effectively CC-0. As we have explained to you multiple times now, that is not possible without consent of every single contributor of a copyright protected text to Wikipedia and it is highly doubtful that a majority of Wikipedians (or the WMF) is interested in converting Wikipedia to CC-0.
Well, you just said that that there might be cases "where copyright law permits the extraction of information from copyrighted texts", so I believe that an explicit indication about those cases in the CC-BY-SA license could be helpful for other people to avoid repeating this conversation in other places.
(I can only urge you again to carefully read the explanations people in this discussion have given you and perhaps also look into copyright law (a Wikipedia article will do) and the CC-BY-SA and CC-0 license texts to understand the fundamental issues we are discussing here.)
I did, however there is not much legislation on data mining texts with copyright (is there any?).
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