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In T180345#6710271 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180345#6710271>, @Nikki wrote: > I think it would be useful to see some examples of how these would be used/what they would be used for. > > I'm not sure that `ko-kore` (or `ko-hani`) would be the best way to add text containing hanja because wouldn't we want it to be linked to the corresponding hangul? Years ago, I proposed a "hanja" property for Korean (proposal here <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/43#hanja>) . It was rejected at the time but I still think that would be the best way to do it and perhaps it would be a good idea to revisit it. > > I imagine it's a similar situation for `vi-hani`. I also proposed a chữ Nôm property <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/chữ_Nôm> for lexemes that was similarly rejected in favor of a semantically distinct property <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P5425>. I remain convinced about the need for the property I proposed, but I haven’t had a chance to press that point. For the time being, there isn’t really a path to bring the Vietnamese Wiktionary’s large body of chữ Nôm data to Wikidata in a semantically correct way. Anyhow, that proposal only made sense in the context of a lexeme. A “chữ Nôm name” property on an item would have to be qualified by applies to name of item (P5168) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P5168>, with a constraint that it could only apply to a Vietnamese label, and there would have to be separate properties for “chữ Nôm given name”, “chữ Nôm birth name”, “chữ Nôm inscription”, etc. I think a monolingual language code would be cleaner. Another issue is that the Vietnamese Wikisource currently hosts a number of older Vietnamese works with the Latin and chữ Nôm transcriptions either side by side <https://vi.wikisource.org/wiki/Lục_Vân_Tiên_%28bản_Nôm_1916%29/I> or on separate pages <https://vi.wikisource.org/wiki/Truyện_Kiều_%28bản_chữ_Nôm%29>. I suspect that, in the long term, better supporting this diglossia will require software support for `vi-hani` as a language code somewhere or other. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180345 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: mxn Cc: Nikki, Mahir256, Mbch331, Amire80, jhsoby, GerardM, mxn, Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, revi, C933103, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude
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