A very interesting discussion. Some general answers to this are:
* Wikidata does, of course, not intend to implement complex reasoning
(or any other algorithm that qualifies as "complex").
* If useful for serving its requirements, Wikidata will not exclude
modelling features just because they are also supported in OWL ;-) For
example, it could be useful to say that Wikidata item describes the same
as an external resource, which can be done in OWL using sameAs. Many
communities could use this for integrating Wikidata information with
other Web databases.
* The "reasoning" support in Wikidata will not in general limit the
modelling support in Wikidata: it might be possible to say something
that has a formal meaning in OWL, even if this formal meaning is not
relevant for query answering in Wikidata (sameAs with external resources
is a possible example, since Wikidata would surely not pull data from
these sources for internal query answering).
* Wikidata will support various export formats, which have more or less
native support for certain modelling features. We will use whatever
expressivity is available in the given format to describe the Wikidata
information as accurately as possible. This might again lead to some OWL
constructs being used in RDF/OWL exports. All Wikidata content will have
a formal meaning, and we will draw from existing experience and
standards for defining this so that it is as widely compatible as possible.
In summary, it is not about endorsing or rejecting a particular ontology
language. We will be open and inclusive with what we support, and user
requirements will be the main guideline for defining "what can be said"
in the system.
Best regards,
Markus
On 01/04/12 08:54, Ivan Herman wrote:
On Mar 31, 2012, at 11:17 , Jakob Voss wrote:
JFC Morfin wrote:
2. Since we have a W3C expert: what is the best document/book to get
a comprehensive and clear (not too massive) documentation on the
semantic web?
You surely don't want to know all about semantic web - especially the
Ontology stuff with OWL dialects and entailment regimes is far too
academic and won't be part of wikidata because of computational
complexity anyway. In short, you should be *very sceptical* and
cautious every time you stumple upon anything that requires inference
rules. Even trivial inference rules such as those based on owl:sameAs
and rdf:type can be problematic in practice! The less inference you
assume, the better.
Let us avoid the all-to-simplistic view that says Semantic Web == OWL:-)
Indeed, bringing in (OWL) inferencing into the core WD project would be a
mistake. From the SW stack, RDF, RDFS, and, on a different note, SPARQL and
maybe RDB2RDF should be the technologies having a role in the project, as well
and Linked Data patterns in general.
That being said, it is probably good to have the vocabularies being used in WD
be properly defined/described. If *somebody else* wants to do inferencing, for
example, we should not stand in the way.
Ivan
I can recommend the "Linked Data Patterns" book by Dodds and Davis:
http://patterns.dataincubator.org/book/
Indeed. That is a great one, too
Ivan
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