I think the situation is different here, the unported CC-BY-SA doesn't grant any database rights, so it might not be possible to use the data with CC0 or ODBL (it is debatable, that's the point where consulting with a lawyer is useful).
http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Data has some information. On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Denny Vrandečić < [email protected]> wrote: > So since ODBL and CCBYSA are not compatible, why would it be less of a > source of possible conflicts and infringements of Wikipedia's content > license to use ODBL instead of CC0? > > > > > 2012/11/28 Benjamin Ooghe-Tabanou <[email protected]> > >> No you cannot: CC-BY-SA is not intended for data, so regarding data >> you should never use any CC licence (pre-version 4.0, v4 will address >> database rights) other than CC0. That's why if you want BY-SA >> conditions, the good choice is ODbL which was created by the Open >> Knowledge Foundation exactly for this, a share alike licence for >> opendata. >> >> Like I already said a few months back, I totally agree with Alex : >> using ODbL and therefore keep along the BY-SA choice that rules >> Wikipedia is the most logical choice. Mocing towards CC0 would be a >> source of a lot of possible conflicts and possible infringements of >> Wikipedia's content licence. >> >> Benjamin Ooghe-Tabanou from Regards Citoyens (France) >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Denny Vrandečić >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Can you give me a reference for the statement that CCBYSA and ODBL are >> > compatible? I understand that they have certain similarities, but I >> want to >> > understand if I can take ODBL content and relicense it under CCBYSA and >> the >> > other way around. >> > >> > Or else what do you mean with "compatible"? >> > >> > >> > 2012/11/28 Alexrk <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> I guess things would be far more easier if WikiData would choose a >> >> CCBYSA-compatible database license like ODbL. I can only repeat >> myself, that >> >> the OpenStreetMap community went through a similar discussion and >> decided to >> >> respect database rights and keep their data as clean as possible. >> Because >> >> they didn't want to take the legal risk, that after 5 years a big >> company >> >> like Google will sue them and so OSM might loose the work of 5 years. >> >> >> >> I also think that there are two aspects in this topic: 1) the pure >> legal >> >> aspects and 2) how we (Wikipedia users) treat each other and respect >> the >> >> work of others. So the WMF might say: hey you European guys with your >> DB >> >> rights... bad luck that you invest all your work into a US hosted >> project - >> >> we don't care about your rights. Even _if_ this is legally not to be >> >> objected, is it fair against the users? >> >> >> >> To make it clear: I'm into lots of list articles (streets and >> monuments) >> >> which contains lots of data. This content is licenced under CCBYSA >> today. >> >> The day when all this content will be expropriated by WikiData, is the >> day >> >> I'll stop my work for these Wikipedia projects. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Alex >> >> >> >> -- >> >> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Alexrk2 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Project director Wikidata >> > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin >> > Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de >> > >> > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. >> > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg >> unter >> > der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für >> > Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikidata-l mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >> > > > > -- > Project director Wikidata > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin > Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter > der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für > Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. >
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