On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Denny Vrandečić < [email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Janyong, > > as Michael said, Wikidata does not automatically get updated in any case. > We are planning to improve a bit the experience with moving a page in the > Wikipedias, but it won't become automatic. Mostly because these issues are > in general complicated. > > > 2013/4/1 Jianyong Zhang <[email protected]> > >> Hi, >> >> Wikidata is a very useful effort. It seems associating an item with a >> wikipedia article. Then I'm thinking the following scenarios to understand >> it further: >> >> Say, an article is associated with an item Qx. >> >> 1) It becomes redirect to another article, will Qx be changed in this >> scenario? >> >> > I expect that if a Wikipedia article gets moved, this will be updated on > the Wikidata item manually. Otherwise the language links that were > displayed on the original article would not show up. > > If an article gets turned into a redirect to an already existing article, > this would be a merge (see Question 4). > > Thanks for the detailed reply. I still have some question on redirect. See, if the article A redirects to the article B, will we have 2 items or only one for the final targets and all its redirects? >From my point of view, if a redirect talks about same topic as its final target, then it makes sense to only have 1 item. Such as, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obamaand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama. But in many cases, a redirect talks about a related but different topic with its final target. Such as, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_activistand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activism. how will wikidata handle such redirects? And back to the original question, if an article becomes a redirect, for the above 2 different scenarios,what will we do? > > >> 2) It is deleted. Will Qx be also deleted? >> >> > In some cases. If all articles in all languages of an item got deleted, > than it might mean that the item itself should be deleted too, but this is > not necessarily the case. > > > >> 3) That article is split as 2 new articles, how will we generate items >> for them? >> >> > It depends. Let us assume there was one article "Castor and Pollux". Now > it gets split into two articles, "Castor" and "Pollux". In this case we > would probably have three items in Wikidata: one for Castor, one for > Pollux, and one for the pair of them. > > > >> 4) Or multiple articles are merged as one, how will their items be >> changed? >> >> > The same. There *might* be items for the individuals as well as for the > compound. Not all Wikipedias might slice the world equally. How a merge > really is handled, depends on what the corresponding articles and items are > about. > > > The good news is that these cases actually got a lot simpler than they > used to be: they happened previously as well, but in that case you had to > struggle with an ecosystem of bots who might revert your edits that were > trying to clean up the interwiki links. Now it is all in Wikidata, and the > situations should be easier to resolve. > > Just my two cents on these questions, > Cheers, > Denny > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >> >> > > > -- > Project director Wikidata > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin > Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter > der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für > Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > >
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