Think of it this way, it is clear freebase / Google already has such mappings and probably using them as they are the ones that provided them to us.
I don't see that us also adding the data for the mappings on our side is going to mean anything... they already know what on freebase links to what on Wikidata... :) A On 13 Nov 2013 02:54, "David Cuenca" <dacu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Denny, > > I asked again about this property because there were some concerns when it > was created. From the comments I infer that the general ethos is "not > against, but not thrilled either": > > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Freebase-Wikidata_mappings > > I share the feeling, I don't mind linking, but I see little utility for > Wikidata given the different licenses. > > Cheers, > Micru > > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Denny Vrandečić <vrande...@google.com>wrote: > >> Hi Max, >> >> indeed, I am not suggesting creating a new property. The data release >> that was made today basically provides data for P646. >> >> Cheers, >> Denny >> >> >> Regarding the off-topic part of your mail, I want to point out to my >> personal opinion with regards to data licensing, which was formulated >> before I started my current job: <http://simia.net/wiki/Free_data> . >> This is solely my opinion though, but it did influence my voice in the >> decision-making process around the license for Wikidata in my previous job. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Klein,Max <kle...@oclc.org> wrote: >> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> We already do have a freebase ID, similar to the VIAF one- it's >>> P646<http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P646> >>> . >>> >>> I just went back into the email Archives and a discussion started on >>> 6/14/2013 by Google Developer Relations person Shawn Simister[1] first >>> proposed this property. There is large thread there about licensing, ending >>> with Micru having an unanswered question to Shawn about how Freebase can >>> manage its license since it mixes CC-0 and CC-BY? >>> >>> Off-topic: this thread is from before Denny announced that he was >>> going to Google, I believe, is that correct? Whatever happens with >>> licensing, and regarding Wikidata's CC0, I hope that it wasn't engineered >>> so that Google could profit from Wikidata. I concede that this thought is >>> mostly from paranoia, and disagreeing with a lot of Google's politics and >>> tactics in the past. >>> >>> [1] https://plus.google.com/+ShawnSimister >>> >>> >>> Maximilian Klein >>> Wikipedian in Residence, OCLC >>> +17074787023 >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* wikidata-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org < >>> wikidata-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of Gerard Meijssen < >>> gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Monday, November 11, 2013 11:27 AM >>> *To:* WikiData-l >>> *Subject:* Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata-Freebase mappings published under >>> CC0 >>> >>> >>> Hoi, >>> If I understand you well, what you propose is adding links that are >>> similar to what we already do to VIAF and so many others. Using data from >>> Freebase is a tantalising option. Is there agreement and a license that >>> allows for this? >>> Thanks, >>> GerardM >>> Op 11 nov. 2013 19:35 schreef "Denny Vrandečić" <vrande...@google.com>: >>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> as you know, I have recently started a new job. My mission to get >>>> more free data out to the world has not changed due to that, though. >>>> >>>> Thus, I am happy to point you today to a step in this direction. We >>>> have created a mapping of Wikidata Qids to Freebase Mids, and are >>>> publishing it under CC0, so that anyone can use it in any way they want. >>>> The file contains about 2 Million mappings. >>>> >>>> The download and all further data is available here: >>>> < >>>> https://developers.google.com/freebase/data#freebase-wikidata-mappings> >>>> >>>> In particular, I hope that the data will be uploaded to Wikidata. We >>>> also plan to upload the data to Freebase. The two-way links will ensure >>>> that systems using either knowledge base can easily merge data, go from one >>>> to the other, enrich data with each other, etc. We opted to first publish >>>> the mappings standalone, to make clear that they are under CC0. >>>> >>>> The mapping is created based on the Wikidata dumps from end of >>>> October. Wikidata Items are matched with Freebase Topics based on their >>>> respective links to Wikipedia. Each mapping says that there have been no >>>> disagreeing Wikipedia-Links and at least two agreeing Wikipedia-Links, so >>>> the data should be very clean. Furthermore, the mappings are sorted by the >>>> number of agreeing Wikipedia-Links, so it is kinda sorted by relevance. >>>> >>>> The data is in RDF format. To get the Mids as they are used in >>>> Wikidata, the replace the namespace >>>> http://rdf.freebase.com/ns/m. >>>> with >>>> /m/ >>>> The Wikidata Qids are using the Wikidata namespace, i.e. the Qids >>>> themselves are concatenated to >>>> http://www.wikidata.org/entity/ >>>> >>>> If anyone wants to take up the task to upload the data to Wikidata, I >>>> can offer to help and answer questions and to help. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Denny >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>>> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >> >> > > > -- > Etiamsi omnes, ego non > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > >
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