Hoi, There are standards that define British English et al. It makes part of the ISO codes. We do not have to invent something like "ISO 639-3eng". Thanks, GerardM
On 5 May 2014 20:39, Scott MacLeod <worlduniversityandsch...@gmail.com>wrote: > Hi Joe, Magnus, Andrew, GerardM, Jane, Daniel and Wikidatans, > > Since "Language fallback is not a luxury like it is for British English, > it is essential for all the smaller languages. It is what prevents it from > being editable / usable" (per GerardM), and in terms of Reasonator, > statements, and careful design (DanielK), what are current Wikidata > processes to plan eventually for all 7,106 living languages (plus even dead > and invented languages) in the world per "Ethnologue: Languages of the > World, Seventeenth edition" (http://www.ethnologue.com/statistics/size), > as people add them, and use, for example, the ISO coding system (or > similar) for this, to anticipate not yet added languages, and especially > for 'smaller' languages that GerardM mentions? > > In terms of British English (en-gb) and English (en) distinction, why not > just code English in Wikidata as "ISO 639-3eng" per > http://www.ethnologue.com/language/eng as part of a careful design for > all languages, and then build out for smaller languages? (CC wiki WUaS is > planning wiki schools in all 7,106 languages, plus dead and invented > languages). > > It seems that using or keying in on the ISO system, or a similar one, > would allow for remarkable extensibility and careful design of Wikidata, as > well as fallback for other languages such as Hindi, Odia or Malayalam. > Cheers, > Scott > > > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:11 AM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> Hoi, >> I am talking about statements.. I am not asking for selecting items that >> have no label in a language.. This would only work if auto descriptions are >> in use. >> Thanks, >> GerardM >> >> >> On 5 May 2014 12:52, Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de> wrote: >> >>> Am 05.05.2014 10:57, schrieb Gerard Meijssen: >>> > Hoi, >>> > When the "other languages" box needs to become more flexible, it is a >>> different >>> > problem that has nothing to do with the ability to understand what >>> statements >>> > are made. At this time it is an absolute inability when there is no >>> label in >>> > *YOUR* language. >>> >>> You are talking about picking an item as a link target when creating a >>> statement >>> when tehre is no label for the target item in your exact variant? >>> >>> Yes, we can and should implement fallback for that more swiftly. In >>> fact, I was >>> under the impression this was already in place... Lydia, do we have >>> ticket for that? >>> >>> -- daniel >>> >>> PS: it's not an *absolute* inability: you can enter the ID directly. But >>> that's >>> not very nice, I know. >>> >>> -- >>> Daniel Kinzler >>> Senior Software Developer >>> >>> Wikimedia Deutschland >>> Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >> >> > > > -- > - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President > - http://scottmacleod.com/interlingual/worlduniversityandschool.html > - World University and School - like Wikipedia with MIT OpenCourseWare > (not endorsed by MIT OCW) - incorporated as a nonprofit effective April > 2010. > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > >
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