On 4 May 2014 13:17, Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de> wrote:

> Am 04.05.2014 09:00, schrieb Lydia Pintscher:
> > On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Joe Filceolaire <filceola...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Where are we with fallback languages?
> >
> > The status is that we have a plan for the next steps. I realize it is
> > important but currently not doable in the next say 3 months.
> I would like to add some information about why language fallback is not as
> easily done as it may seem. Fallback for *display* is simple enough (as
> reasonator proves) - but we allow editing, which makes this much harder.
> Consider the case of a user with their language set to "en-gb", but seeing
> a
> label in "en" due to fallback. What should happen if they click "edit"?
> Which
> label will they be editing, the "en" one or the "en-gb" one? They should
> really
> be able to do both, and the consequences of their edit should be obvious to
> them. When automatic transliteration comes into play, as is the case with
> some
> chinese variants, things become more complex still.
> This is not impossible to solve (e.g. by showing edit boxes for all the
> relevant
> variants, with some additional information), but needs careful design. This
> cannot be done overnight.

BTW, this is a shared design need in VisualEditor for language variant
support (we should show one item/term because that's what users expect from
read mode, but then how do we show when the user is editing that term which
changes they've made have applied automatically to other variants and which
didn't, and why).

James D. Forrester
[[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] (speaking purely in a personal
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