@Bene*: The WE-Framework already has an interface for dealing with statement ranks, have you tried the latest version? https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:WE-Framework
As for mapping Wikipedia templates to wikidata properties I think James F. mentioned something about including that into templatedata https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/TemplateData Cheers, Micru On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Bene* <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello, > > >> My Dream scenario is that the VE understands that the data is pulled from >> Wikidata and shows a dialog that is similar to the current template >> parameters. I see the old mayor's name in that dialog, I write the new >> mayor's name, and the new value is stored in Wikidata. Of course, it must >> be taken into account that the name is likely not just a string, but a >> label of the Wikidata item. >> > > The problem I see here is that we mostly do not want to replace a value > but rather add another preferred one and state that the old one is now > deprecated. This means, we also want to have the old major on the Wikidata > item but the new major should be marked as preferred. I think we have to > think a lot how this can be implemented best in Visual Editor. Maybe we > should just add the value entered there just as another preferred value but > this is rather a guess because the data might also be simply wrong and > should be replaced. We thus have to investigate how often the value should > be replaced and how often the old value should be kept as well. Then we can > decide a way how the visual editor should use this data without being to > complicated but also offering all options to create the data as intended. > > > My acceptable-but-suboptimal scenario is taking the user to >> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6850543 . This is probably a useful >> workflow for the tech-savvy editors, but it's suboptimal for a casual >> editor. I'll go as far as saying that for a casual editor it may be >> (relatively) more comfortable to edit parameters in a MediaWiki template >> ("|mayor =[[Milan Ftáčnik]]") than to go to >> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6850543 and find the value. >> > > We might take the user to the item's page on Wikidata if he wants to make > more enhanced edits like replacing an old edit. > > > Does anybody have any more ideas about it? >> > > For the technical implementation, we have to find a way which data comes > from which item and which property. Maybe we can add some data-item and > data-property attributes to the HTML tag in which the data is stored so > that the visual editor can easy find these transclusions. However, this > might also be a security issue if the attributes are added to elements not > containing Wikidata data. > > All in all, you are surely not late and this discussion has just started > at Wikimania (although it is planned much longer to have something like > that). Therefore, I think this feature hasn't hightes priority at the > moment and needs lots of cooperation with the Visual Editor team. Perhaps > we will start developing not before 2016. (Only my personal guess. :-) > > Best regards, > Bene > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > -- Etiamsi omnes, ego non
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