Hoi,
I am confused.. is that not the same ?
Thanks,
    GerardM

On 17 August 2014 15:38, David Cuenca <[email protected]> wrote:

> They are slightly different. One refers to the work the character appears
> in, and the other refers to the fictional universe. For instance:
> <Frodo Baggins (Q177329)> present in work <The Lord of the Rings (Q15228)>
> <Frodo Baggins (Q177329)> from narrative or fictional universe <Tolkien's
> legendarium (Q81738)>
>
> Cheers,
> Micru
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Sjoerd de Bruin <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> So we have https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1441 now. What's the
>> difference between that property and
>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1080 ?
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Sjoerd de Bruin
>> [email protected]
>>
>> Op 17 aug. 2014, om 15:27 heeft John Lewis <[email protected]> het
>> volgende geschreven:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> You can view the latest summary at
>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Status_updates/2014_08_16.
>>
>> Discussions
>>
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>>    
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>>    - Newest properties: journey destination
>>    <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1444>, score method
>>    <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1443>, grave picture
>>    <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1442>, present in work
>>    <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1441>, Fide ID
>>    <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1440>, Norsk filmografi ID
>>    <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1439>, Jewish Encyclopedia ID
>>    <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1438>, plea
>>    <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1437>, collection size
>>    <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1436>
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