No, because you can live in that fictional universe, yet never appear in a
particular book of the series.

L.
Il 17/ago/2014 15:41 "Gerard Meijssen" <[email protected]> ha
scritto:

> Hoi,
> I am confused.. is that not the same ?
> Thanks,
>     GerardM
>
>
> On 17 August 2014 15:38, David Cuenca <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> They are slightly different. One refers to the work the character appears
>> in, and the other refers to the fictional universe. For instance:
>> <Frodo Baggins (Q177329)> present in work <The Lord of the Rings (Q15228)>
>> <Frodo Baggins (Q177329)> from narrative or fictional universe <Tolkien's
>> legendarium (Q81738)>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Micru
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Sjoerd de Bruin <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> So we have https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1441 now. What's the
>>> difference between that property and
>>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1080 ?
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> Sjoerd de Bruin
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>> Op 17 aug. 2014, om 15:27 heeft John Lewis <[email protected]> het
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>
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