not to mention the simple fact that Wikidata has way more Flemish painters than are in the English Wikipedia's list, for example just look at this query for painters born in Antwerp: http://tools.wmflabs.org/autolist/autolist1.html?q=claim%5B106%3A1028181%5D%20and%20claim%5B19%3A12892%5D
On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]> wrote: > Hoi, > For the list "Flemish surrealist painters" there is no intersection > between "Flemish painter" or with "Surrealist painters". That list is in > and of itself an article in a Wikipedia. In Wikidata you want the two > properties separate so that you can be surprised with who fits in a list. > It is not deterministic. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 1 January 2015 at 13:23, Thomas Douillard <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I don't think so. There always be intersections beetween lists. One of >> the Flemish painter might also be in the list of surrealist painters. >> >> 2014-12-30 14:41 GMT+01:00 Jane Darnell <[email protected]>: >> >>> I would suggest you are thinking from the wrong perspective. Think >>> specific, and work your way from there. On the English Wikipedia, there are >>> tons of lists which each have their own set of rules for list items. This >>> makes a specific query much easier, tied to the list item on Wikidata. For >>> example, take a look at this list which uses a motley crew of references to >>> keep redlinks from being deleted: >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Flemish_painters >>> >>> Wikidata has well filled items for most of those redlinks, for which >>> articles could be created using the PrepBio tool: >>> http://tools.wmflabs.org/magnustools/prepbio.php >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Thomas Douillard < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, I got an open question about Wikidata concepts, partly related to >>>> the idea of selecting a templates wrt. a query for placeholder articles. >>>> >>>> One question about this idea is : what to do when several templates are >>>> possible for an item, for example the item with no article is in the result >>>> set of several queries associated with article stubs templates, say: >>>> * the query "anything", that could be associated with a totally generic >>>> templates that shows a Wikibase page like article templates that shows all >>>> the claims about this item >>>> * a more specific query "living organism" >>>> * another even more specific query like "animal" >>>> * ... >>>> >>>> In this example each more specific query results is obviously a subset >>>> of each more generic one. In such cases it could be useful to choose the >>>> template of the most specific one. >>>> >>>> In the same spirit of the "subclass of" property we can create (or >>>> reuse it) for the queries. But as no property has in Wikibase itself a >>>> meaning, this means the choice of the template would not be possible using >>>> raw Wikibase concepts, which partly breaks the interests of the idea. >>>> >>>> Any thoughts about this problem ? >>>> >>>> Cheers, TomT0m >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > >
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