Exactly, Fabian. We constantly adapt articles from Eng as well as 'local' wiki languages. For example the Gaudi article on cywiki is around 65% en; 30% ca and 5% external websites. Great work happening with the Content Translation Tool; just wish cy could have piloted it!
The rich weave of languages on the loom of Wikipedia gives the tapestry its beauty and strength. I also agree that the wikidata button on WP needs simplifying! Robin On 29 January 2015 at 11:26, Fabian Tompsett < [email protected]> wrote: > > > I for one would bet that the number of page creators in any given > Wikipedia that know enough to even look at the left side of the page is > quite small. In my experience, most page creators are unaware that > Wikipedia exists in any language but their own > > mmm, an interesting perspective, but do we have any data? As we are in to > speculation here, I would hazard a guess that the smaller the Wikipedia the > more likely it is that page creators are aware that there are wikipedias in > other languages. So for example on Welsh Wicipedia > <https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafan> I would guess something close to > 100% of page creators are aware of English Wikipedia. > > <https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafan> > > all the best > > Fabian Tompsett, > Volunteer Support Organiser, > Wikimedia UK, > Address: 56-64 Leonard St, > Shoreditch, > London EC2A 4LT > Phone:020 7065 0990 > *Mobile: *07840 455 746 > > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered > Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. > United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia > movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who > operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). > > Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk > > On 29 January 2015 at 11:00, Jane Darnell <[email protected]> wrote: > >> +1 on collecting the click data! I for one would bet that the number of >> page creators in any given Wikipedia that know enough to even look at the >> left side of the page is quite small. In my experience, most page creators >> are unaware that Wikipedia exists in any language but their own >> >> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Daniel Kinzler, 29/01/2015 11:24: >>> > As far as I recall, there is some very silly technical reason that >>> this is not >>> > easy to change at all. We tried to do this right when we introduced >>> the other >>> > widget, of course. >>> > >>> > I don't recall what exactly the problem was though, and it might have >>> been fixed >>> > since. Worth another look... >>> >>> I see. I said "should" (ought to?). :P Is there a phabricator ticket for >>> this? >>> >>> Lydia Pintscher, 29/01/2015 11:31: >>> >>>> The issue with doing this when there are several sitelinks is that >>>> people will unknowingly merge items this way that should not be >>>> merged. That'd be a huge pita. We'll need to put some good thinking >>>> into this still. I have no good solution right now. >>>> >>> >>> This is a non-issue IMHO, as soon as my suggestion at >>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85776 / >>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/transactions/detail/PHID- >>> XACT-TASK-zi2igyjlfqasknq/ is implemented. >>> >>> >>>> >This should be very easy to change. The dialog could then contain a >>>>> link to >>>>> >the Wikidata item for the case when one wants to edit or remove >>>>> links, until >>>>> >such a feature is added to the dialog itself. >>>>> >>>> Showing the dialog and requiring people to click would probably annoy >>>> people for having to click one additional time? Especially if their >>>> intention is clear. >>>> >>> >>> There is already a generic Wikidata link in the sidebar which users can >>> click; having two of them is a waste. Also, the drawback is much lower than >>> the gain: if I'm forced to visit an entry in Wikidata to edit a sitelink, I >>> have to spend X seconds to load the entry, then find the "add" button etc, >>> spend additional N links; if I really want to go to the Wikidata entry, >>> having to click in a dialog is just one click more and a fraction of second >>> spent. >>> >>> If you really think the "add one link" case is minoritary for those who >>> click the edit links button, I trust you, but we should have click tracking >>> data to back this. Personally, I'd bet 85 % of users clicking the button >>> just wants to add one link and expects to see the dialog they usually see >>> to add links (when there are none). >>> >>> Nemo >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >> >> > -- -- *Robin Owain * *Rheolwr Wikimedia UK yng Nghymru* *Wikimedia UK Manager in Wales* (0044) 7967814334 / (0044) 207 065 0990 @WiciCymru Mae Wikimedia UK yn Gwmni sy'n Gyfyngedig dan Warant ac wedi'i gofrestr yng Nghymru a Lloegr, Rhif Cofrestredig 1144513. Swyddfa Gofrestredig: 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, Llundain, EC2A 4LT. Mae Wikimedia UK yn siaptr lleol o fudiad byd-eang Wikimedia. 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